Lion Steel Rotoblock

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Tomso said:
Rotoblock, designed by Lion Steel, works by turning it clockwise to lock the framelock...but it doesn't automatically engage. Its not like autolawk that engages every time you open the knife. You can sometimes turn it into lock position by accident, if you happened to have your finger positioned on it or like RYP mentioned by waving the knife open. Personally i dont often wave knives, because its hard on the pocket, but its cool that you can. Anyway, Its sort of like a volume nob on radio...you turn it one way to make volume go up(locking the framelock in our case) and other way to turn it down...i know, its like the best explanation ever:)
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I thinks this is where the hang up for everyone is. It sounds like RYP is saying that every time you open the knife that it will automatically engage the Rotoblock feature and lock the knife. By your description, it sounds like the user is going to have to turn the Rotoblock dial to engage the lock. I guess I'm not so sure how by "waving" the knife open it will engage the Rotoblock without some assistance from the user. Just my 2 cents.
 
Rotoblock is a LionSteel Patent.
It is a safety Sistem.
With a simple rotation of the Rotoblock you will fix the blade in open position.
The user must rotate the Rotoblock when the blade is open, nothing automatically.
 
GianniLion said:
Rotoblock is a LionSteel Patent.
It is a safety Sistem.
With a simple rotation of the Rotoblock you will fix the blade in open position.
The user must rotate the Rotoblock when the blade is open, nothing automatically.
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So, RYP misspoke when he said,

"When you pull the DPx HEST/F out of your pocket with a downward motion, it comes out open AND locked. No unassisted, manual knife on the planet does this. Some come out open, some can be locked but the DPx HEST/F is unique in this feature."

The Rotoblock must be engaged manually, which means that the HEST/F is no different than any other "waved" folder UNLESS you take the time to manually rotate and LOCK the lockbar in position.

Not trying to call RYP a liar or anything. I think it was just a simple misstatement that got everyone confused. The Rotoblock still sounds like an awesome feature. The HEST/F still sounds like an awesome knife.
 
dillon_b12 said:
So, RYP misspoke when he said,

"When you pull the DPx HEST/F out of your pocket with a downward motion, it comes out open AND locked. No unassisted, manual knife on the planet does this. Some come out open, some can be locked but the DPx HEST/F is unique in this feature."

The Rotoblock must be engaged manually, which means that the HEST/F is no different than any other "waved" folder UNLESS you take the time to manually rotate and LOCK the lockbar in position.

Not trying to call RYP a liar or anything. I think it was just a simple misstatement that got everyone confused. The Rotoblock still sounds like an awesome feature. The HEST/F still sounds like an awesome knife.
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I know, a lot of confusion in this thread about the Rotoblock and even though i tried, i certanly didnt explain it best.
When you wave it, it does turn and is in lock position. Not sure why, probably friction...i really dont know, but it does turn. To me, it really makes no diference if it locks or no, becuase the frame lock is so well made by LionSteel. Once you have framelock so thick and strong like this knife has, well, you just cant go back to normal locks:)
 
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ok, guys, did two quick video with my phone which I hope will show what Robert wanted to say in the first place.

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Rotoblock
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Thanks for the videos, Tom. They showed what I figured was happening.

By the way, The knife looks great in the hand!
 
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Tomso said:
ok, guys, did two quick video with my phone which I hope will show what Robert wanted to say in the first place. If someone can explain how you embed videos I would appreciate as I couldn't figure it out my self.

[youtube]-7OJY0OQui0[/youtube]

Rotoblock
[youtube]-HM0nIgINLM[/youtube]
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Fixed it for you Tomso. Thanks for sharing..... :thumbup:
 
Tomso said:
Ok, now we have three posts of embeded videos. How cool is that :D
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Hahaha! I went ahead and deleted my attempt. Thanks again for the videos. It's exactly what this train wreck of a thread needed.
 
I have watched those videos too many times in the last few minutes. My addiction to this knife porn is not healthy.

I need a twelve step program.

God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.
 
Hey Tomso!!!! did I tell you what a ...... how much of a ..... your such a ...... man I love you! thanks for the vids mate~! lol Pictures[videos] are worth a thousand words :p
 
sdg said:
Hahaha! I went ahead and deleted my attempt. Thanks again for the videos. It's exactly what this train wreck of a thread needed.
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Yea, hope it will help.

btw, this is my first youtube video ever and I learned just for you guys so please don't go all JKD on my ass because of the quality. I know its bad but at the moment best I can do :D
 
Tomso said:
btw, this is my first youtube video ever and I learned just for you guys so please don't go all JKD on my ass because of the quality. I know its bad but at the moment best I can do :D
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You done good, son. Now go make us more HEST/F videos to get us through Christmas!
 
RYP said:
Unfortunately the DPx HEST doesn't have a "wave" feature, it has a beer opener also called a pot holder and designed by me to create an opposite lashing point and thumb grip on the fixed and folding HEST. Period.
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RYP said:
I can confirm that the bottle opener is actually a rapid deployment system.
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RYP said:
Another feature is the Rapid Deployment System...
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Still no answer?
 
Tomso said:
Yea, hope it will help.

btw, this is my first youtube video ever and I learned just for you guys so please don't go all JKD on my ass because of the quality. I know its bad but at the moment best I can do :D
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Thanks for the vids Tomso. Seeing it in action is great for everyone to help see what's going on. Thanks for taking the time to post and learn a new skill. If not too much trouble how about a mini review of the knife with shots from different angles. We need something to keep us sane until this thing arrives.

Thanks again!
 
That guy Darth run out of Maxipads already?

I think Tomso clearly points out that if the owner deploys the knife a certain way the DPx HEST opens and LOCKS.

I am trying to figure out how to explain that in basic english but I realize that is the difference between saying both a glider and a bullet "flies". Same description totally different effect. The DPx HEST/F doesn't just open and locks...it OPENS and LOCKS.

Its like the choil on the fixed HEST version actually being a wire cutter or the pry bar also being a screwdriver. Its just reflects the amount of care and thinking I put into a design and serendipity of working with a team of people who make my basic idea better. Each part does many things and the sum of the whole is a very satisfying knife both esthetically, ergonomically and in real life use.

As I said before my "real life" is not in a shop grinding metal or reading knife mags, its out there in ugly places watching how people use weapons, knives, tactics and how normal stuff just fails because it wasn't designed in the field. Sure we appreciate tips but you have to use the product BEFORE you sell it to your customers. From that comes a range of great appreciations and minor tweaks. The ability of this knife to open and LOCK is just ONE of things that buyers will groove on.

Although I would love to sit inside and make knives all day I would rather use them outdoors...way outdoors.

So I am tired of typing now...but if you need more attention Darth.... here...
..another rapid deployment system inspected by Darth...with the obvious reaction

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You do understand that the wave (as a device) as nothing to do with the type of lock used? The wave is a method of opening:nothing more. Whether your knife locks, doesn't lock or locks differently has no bearing on the matter.

RYP said:
The DPx HEST/F doesn't just open and locks...it OPENS and LOCKS.
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Thank you for the clarification.
 
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