My Dispute with "The Bright Edge"

Gollnick said:
"Restocking fees" are appropriate when a knife is being returned because the buyer simply changed his mind.


I would think that this is in writting? If you are not told up front, or its not in writting, my understanding is that in Pa. you get a full refund.

I'm not up on the balisongs as most of you. I do feel that since you called and asked to make sure that it latched both open and closed, there should be no problem getting a full refund. The pic's indicate that the knife was not what it was it was repesented to be.
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Who believes this nonsense of not checking if a $750 Bali style knife latches in the open position when a customer asks this exact simple question? Lie. Lie. LIE.

Anybody that has ever owned a Bali style knife knows they lock open and closed. Is this actually a question? No, seriously.

To say the anodized finish would suffer is crap and a lie after the fact.

Efforts to blame the knifemaker are even weaker. He knows he sold a defective item. To try and play on the already established hatred of Brad Duncan at the USN means very little.

Not to mention that Robert Bartoli is nuttier than a fruitcake... check this link... http://forum.ramanon.com/showthread.php?p=353423#post353423

Bartoli, the knifeworld's own wacko jacko. :D
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but Bartoli did say that if the customer wants to have an inspection period, the customer is to send him a cheque or money order so he does not have to be out of CC or PP charges if the customer wants to return the merchandise. He will hold the cheque or money order until the customer sez to cash it or the inspection period runs out.

I wud tink tats a reasonable way to conduct business. The beef here is that the customer bought the bali without comunicating tat he might be returning the bali by credit card.

Understand tat CC company charges the merchant both ways. tings cud have been handled better if both the parties have a cooler head. Way I see it, Bartoli wud get credo if he gives a full refund, but anyone has to give back some too to reimburse Bartoli as he jumped the gun without stating tat he might return the bali.

The rest of lynching party deserves a big jeer...
 
Cliff Stamp said:
First off all HI took a major increase in growth through Bill on the internet, which expanded into a growth of employment and increase in state of living for many in nepal, and is still going after Bill has passed. That seems to be successful from your point of view. They even constructed and filled their own shop, so the growth was fairly significant.

However there is more to life than money. Lots of people would prefer to define success, and yes even business, that isn't so focused on money. I have dealt with many knife makers who for example from time to time will do things like grinding, heat treating, etc. for very low costs so that they lose money.

They do it for many reasons, they appreciate that others have done it for them and thus pass along the help to other makers and users at time and simply like working with people who like knives and cutlery. I would not be so quick to judge them as less successful simply because they make less money.

But success is a personal thing, it simply means to achieve goals you have set. Not everyone sets goals based on money. Everyone is free of course to define their personal success in what ever way they want.

Not really, I don't care one way or the other how "The Bright Edge" handles it practices, I was just noting that the way in which anyone was treated in this thread was hardly constructive and that it can be handled in a different way. It doesn't effect me one way or the other either way.

-Cliff
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very difficult for me lol, but i think cliffs 100% right on this issue.
 
CrazyFool said:
Who believes this nonsense of not checking if a $750 Bali style knife latches in the open position when a customer asks this exact simple question? Lie. Lie. LIE.

Anybody that has ever owned a Bali style knife knows they lock open and closed. Is this actually a question? No, seriously.

To say the anodized finish would suffer is crap and a lie after the fact.

Efforts to blame the knifemaker are even weaker. He knows he sold a defective item. To try and play on the already established hatred of Brad Duncan at the USN means very little.

Not to mention that Robert Bartoli is nuttier than a fruitcake... check this link... http://forum.ramanon.com/showthread.php?p=353423#post353423

Bartoli, the knifeworld's own wacko jacko. :D
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ok, seriously no one wants to join your CRAPPY forum...so stop trying to "whore it out":rolleyes:


CrazyFool said:
Wow, here's something you almost never see at bladeforum.com, a bunch of morons attacking an honest man. :rolleyes:

Robert of TheBrightEdge is a great friend and a superior business man. I would not hesitate to recommend him to anybody and know he is first class all the way.

Some moron buys a used guardfather from a friend and Robert is supposed service it? Nice.
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well,.. that is in the last few posts of yours here

:footinmou swallow slow!
 
I have stayed out of this up till now. Bob is a friend of mine, and does not need me to defend him.99.9% of the people who deal with him know what I am talking about.

Then Kevinfool speaks. So tell me crazyfool---what happened to the money?????
 
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With all due respect Mr. glockman99, I think your forum, and moderators have allowed this thread to go well past the point of return or the point of justifying banning anyone involved. Anyone that has felt like posting has been able to say whatever they have wanted and surely has pushed the envelope as far as the guidlines established by this forum!

I would like to be able to contact the Guiness Book Of World records soon and submit this thread as the longest thread in forum history!! All involved would have there screen names bound in history!

Just think, we can now link other web sites and to other forums!!!

Next we will put a man on the...........MOON!!

Always remember these simple buying tips spelled out in the front of this section of the forum!

Suggestions for having a good Buying / Selling / Trading experience

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1. Make sure you spell out the terms of the deal before the purchase. Don't assume anything is covered - spell it out in detail.

2. When in doubt, pick up the phone. More problems can be solved in a 3 minute phone call than all the emails you'll send back and forth.

3. Be prompt in payment & shipping. DURRRR. Nobody likes a deadbeat or slacker. If you need additional time for whatever reason, be up front about it - but don't make the other guy chase after you.

4. Be explicit in your descriptions & detailed in your photos. A 1mm scuff that's "ho hum" to you is "OMGWTF!" to some collectors.

5. IF YOU WANT AN INSPECTION PERIOD OR RIGHT TO RETURN A PRODUCT, AGREE TO IT IN ADVANCE. CYA CYA CYA CYA CYA - it will save hard feelings all around.

6. Shipping & Insurance are good investments. That $1.25 you save in postage, packaging & packing material might cost you $700 if the knife never arrives or is damaged in transit.

7. SEARCH THE FORUMS BEFORE YOU BUY / SELL / TRADE. I cannot emphasize this enough. The Good Bad & Ugly is here for a reason - use it. The time you spend on this is less expensive getting burned on a bad deal.

8. Follow up when possible. Let the other guy know when you have gotten the knife or received payment. No one likes to be kept in the dark.

9. The deal isn't done until everyone agrees. If you've agreed on an inspection period, don't spend the money until it's over.

10. Last but not least -Ethics & Common sense are not optional. We are a thriving community because our membership has high standards for their fellows. If you do screw someone on a deal (buying or selling), being banned is nothing compared to having the postal inspectors come after you for Mail Fraud. People have a long memory about bad experiences.
 
11. Don't deal with liars.

You got caught in a lie... take your lumps like a man. Business people who lie must live with their reputations. Deal with it.
 
This is far from the longest thread on this forum, and as far as pushing the envelope goes, you've done about as much of that as anyone else here.

"Anyone that has felt like posting has been able to say whatever they have wanted" is a pretty good description of what internet forums are all about. Anyone can say his piece, in the midst of all the opinions the facts come out, and everyone can read it all and make up their own minds.
 
Believe me I have made my decision and can easily live with it.

Crazy fool, don't be so angry! You always can contact me on the forum you host that I am a mod on!

I know this is not the longest thread but it is not over yet!

Crazy fool, funny how I lost your friendship soon after refusing to give you free stuff to help run your forum!

How about those Cowboys!! :eek:
 
brightedge said:
Believe me I have made my decision and can easily live with it.

Crazy fool, don't be so angry! You always can contact me on the forum you host that I am a mod on!

I know this is not the longest thread but it is not over yet!

Crazy fool, funny how I lost your friendship soon after refusing to give you free stuff to help run your forum!

How about those Cowboys!! :eek:
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I never asked you for anything. NEVER. Another lie.

You offered a free Brad Duncan knife(ironic, ehh?) in a raffle only to withdraw the prize after everyone had paid to enter. Hmm, another lie.

Cougar is right... the facts come out. :D

Let's get back to the real issue... do you honestly don't know that a balisong style knife latches in the open position?
 
Mr. Fool I PM'd the owner of the giveaway knife and he will respond here and tell all that he did get the knife that was in the raffle, even though you banned him for posting that he got the knife!

You would think that a guy without a job and or life could keep his facts straight!

John G. LOOK out!! :p

PS Mr. Fool, for future reference research your past post B4 you you decide to bash someone today that you praised in the past! I know that LaBella guy is terrible too, but you gave him a lot of praise in you past posts also!

Originally Posted by CrazyFool
Wow, here's something you almost never see at bladeforum.com, a bunch of morons attacking an honest man.

Robert of TheBrightEdge is a great friend and a superior business man. I would not hesitate to recommend him to anybody and know he is first class all the way.

Wish I could put that as my sig line!!! :p
 
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