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Need weapon for office environment
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Is this a "suit and tie" office environment, or more of a "khakis and polo" office envorinment? When I have to wear a suit, I carry my pocket knife in the inner coat pocket. Thankfully , I rarely have to wear a suit, but my pocket knife rides there well, and prints no worse than the wallet that I carry there as well.
If you had actually read through the thread, you would have discovered exactly what the topic-starter was thinking.... considering he explained his reasoning before you posted, and it actually makes sense.
Also, you would have discovered why others who have posted to this thread feel the same way. (As a matter of fact, look on the same page your post is on).
I myself work in a large office building, but not in an actual office. When you stay late, and are heading home, you sometimes have to deal with all manner of individuals coming up to you. Before you can reach your car, cab, bus, or subway. Some are just obnoxious homeless people, some are not....
Unless you had a weapon on you when you went to work, you're not going to have one on you if you need it after leaving work. A simple concept that you seem to have missed.
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FOL, I'm a 6'3" fat guy. With bad knees. Who sometimes brings a walking stick with him.
There must be a woodcarver somewhere in your area that can make you a fancy walking stick that can still crack someones skull. Face it, a large knife will cost you your job, a small knife will probably be okay, carry the walking stick.
FOL: Decent advice. I know a guy who makes canes for elderly people (he was featured on channel 7 news) who can't afford to pay for them. He does it 'cause he likes wood work. I've seen some of his canes and they're nice. Since you're gainfully employed, he'd charge you, but only a little. No where near what you'd pay retail. Or you could talk to him about a custom one.
email me if you decide you'd like to talk to him.
I've read through all the suggestions here, and while many have considerable merit, the simplest solution still seems the best to me. By that, I mean, just carry your folder in your pocket. Now, I realize that the AFCK is a fairly large folder and would be uncomfortable to carry all day that way, IMO. Further, it is disadvantageous in that it's less accessible due to being in the pocket(if you're on your way to the car at night or other more likely dangerous area).
I would suggest an old Delica or Endura with the integral FRN clip to be exceedingly lightweight for front pocket carry. Then, if you think you're entering a more dangerous area(like the aforementioned parking lot), clip it on and have it ready to draw.
Whatever you choose, stay safe.
I would suggest an old Delica or Endura with the integral FRN clip to be exceedingly lightweight for front pocket carry. Then, if you think you're entering a more dangerous area(like the aforementioned parking lot), clip it on and have it ready to draw.
Whatever you choose, stay safe.
Those clips are just too fragile. (Speaking from first-hand experience).
No doubt this will draw some upset comments, but I just hold my knife in my hand (closed position) while walking through an underground parking lot. People just going about their business, never see it.
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Cram it.
I've done this too - or when I thought someone was paying too much attention to me and whoever I was walking with - even the people I'm walking WITH don't notice I have it in my hand.
I'm checking out the SOG Trident. It has what looks like a really short clip that's "deep" carry. I could wear it waist band with the clip under my belt I think.
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I would strongly suggest that you avoid a knife as a weapon unless you get the training to go with it.
If you must carry a knife as a weapon, pick something that does not look like a weapon, a Benchmade 440.
A combat cane (and training) is an excellent choice.
You could bring in a baseball bat, ball, and glove on some pretext. Keep them in your office and be seen playing with them during breaks or lunch.
If you must carry a knife as a weapon, pick something that does not look like a weapon, a Benchmade 440.
A combat cane (and training) is an excellent choice.
You could bring in a baseball bat, ball, and glove on some pretext. Keep them in your office and be seen playing with them during breaks or lunch.
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I say get a good folder and get a can of OC for your desk.
Umbrella nearby, coffe cup, even a heavier stapler. Whacked with a coffee cup woulg hurt.
Umbrella nearby, coffe cup, even a heavier stapler. Whacked with a coffee cup woulg hurt.
The commonsense response is not to bring a weapon to work, and most of the responders have let their enthusiasm get the better of them.
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What about screwdrivers? I'm allowed to carry whatever I want to work, so I just bring my regular EDC. But I'm looking around my office at regular office materials to see what might be used as a weapon in a pinch. I have several coffee mugs around full of pens, scissors etc. One has several screwdrivers, used for general office tinkering. If you think about it, even the most sheeple-overrun office is bound to have screwdrivers laying around.
A quick once over of items in my office that could be called into SD use if necessary (not counting the knifes I always carry or my SureFire)
several screwdrivers
several big pairs of scissors
a 16 oz. claw hammer
cast-iron 3 hole punch
2 hole punch
heavy-duty stapler
2 heavy duty utility knives
X-acto knife
several cans of soup
and a big, heavy stainless steel cutting straightedge
All of these are items that were already in my office, and I've never thought about them as potential weapons until now. I've certainly never noticed or been threatened by any of them. If your work environment will not allow you to bring a "weapon" with you, and you like the reassurance of having something to defend yourself with, I suggest that you look around and identify potential weapons that are already around you. I doubt anyone would notice or care if a box cutter, or big pair of scissors, or a screwdriver appeared in the coffee mug with your pens on your desk. Or if you suddenly developed an attachment to a heavy-duty stapler. (So that's why the guy in Office Space loved his stapler so much! He wanted it in case he needed to brain somebody!)
No matter where you are, there are almost certainly multiple items that can be pressed into service as weapons. I've always thought a brick would serve as a particularly brutal bludgeon. The key is to be able to identify and have the mindset to use these items if you need to.
A quick once over of items in my office that could be called into SD use if necessary (not counting the knifes I always carry or my SureFire)
several screwdrivers
several big pairs of scissors
a 16 oz. claw hammer
cast-iron 3 hole punch
2 hole punch
heavy-duty stapler
2 heavy duty utility knives
X-acto knife
several cans of soup
and a big, heavy stainless steel cutting straightedge
All of these are items that were already in my office, and I've never thought about them as potential weapons until now. I've certainly never noticed or been threatened by any of them. If your work environment will not allow you to bring a "weapon" with you, and you like the reassurance of having something to defend yourself with, I suggest that you look around and identify potential weapons that are already around you. I doubt anyone would notice or care if a box cutter, or big pair of scissors, or a screwdriver appeared in the coffee mug with your pens on your desk. Or if you suddenly developed an attachment to a heavy-duty stapler. (So that's why the guy in Office Space loved his stapler so much! He wanted it in case he needed to brain somebody!)
No matter where you are, there are almost certainly multiple items that can be pressed into service as weapons. I've always thought a brick would serve as a particularly brutal bludgeon. The key is to be able to identify and have the mindset to use these items if you need to.
Nah! I don't think that's true at all. The OP asked for suggestions and the people provide.
I believe that the handbook is a CYA document for the company so if anything happens with a 'weapon' they can fall back on that and say "We warned him! He didn't follow the handbook!" and wash their hands of it. Standard bureaucratic stuff.
If you want to get particular, it would depend on fulloflead's handbook definition of "weapon". As was pointed out, anything can be a weapon, it comes down to intent. If I carry a SAK as a tool for everyday work and use it as a weapon for defence, I would be as guilty as if I used my pen to the throat of a 'bad guy'.
I feel that they wrote 'weapon' so that people don't bring firearms or something like a BK-7 to work. I could be wrong, but this has been my experience.
If I was fol, I would do a sort of open challenge. I would carry my SAK Trekker or other multi and use it (openly) to open mail or any job around your station. Don't try to hide it, let people know you've got it. Even lend to some people for the odd job.(Just don't let them walk off with it!)
But that's me. You're a better judge of your work environment.
Good luck with that!
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I carry a couple knives (sometimes three) and a multi-tool to work everyday. The multi-tool (SwissTool or Leatherman Charge XTi) and a folder (it may be a small Sebenza or some days the large Spyderco Manix or Military) I carry in belt sheaths on my belt openly and I may also carry a Kershaw Leek clipped in my pocket. I've been doing this for years in an office setting. Sure we have a workplace violence policy which includes "no weapons" but I guess because I've been carrying them so long before the policy was implemented no one thought it was out of place that I carried these "tools". Obviously, I would leave them at home if I was asked to but fortunately no one has made any issue. BTW, I don't flaunt having these personal items with me. If I use them it is out of the public eye at work and normally my multi-tool has the most use at work.
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply flaunting.:foot: I just meant to use it as per normal.
Mauiblue is right!
Looks like 3 votes for the BM Pardue 530. I have a SOG Trident (Tiger stripped), it is large and an assisted opening and scary looking to the sheeple.
The BM530 looks like a sleek little letter opener and is lighter & smaller and IMO a better blade all around for whatever it may be needed for in the office. It is has an axis lock and can be deployed and palmed easily if needed.
The BM530 looks like a sleek little letter opener and is lighter & smaller and IMO a better blade all around for whatever it may be needed for in the office. It is has an axis lock and can be deployed and palmed easily if needed.
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I side with Maximus Otter; get a cane. Maybe you could keep it in an umbrella holder with a couple extra umbrellas. I also like the idea of an autographed baseball bat.
If you want something stabby, check out Bud Nealy. His MCS II sheaths allow you to carry a knife in the widest variety of positions I've ever seen. I like the inverted carry using a flap that slips into the inside pocket of a suit jacket.
If you want something stabby, check out Bud Nealy. His MCS II sheaths allow you to carry a knife in the widest variety of positions I've ever seen. I like the inverted carry using a flap that slips into the inside pocket of a suit jacket.
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A utility HAK, a Hinderer titanium pen, and a Seecamp .32 in your pocket.
You would have a knife, an impact weapon, and a firearm all taking up very little space. The knife and Seecamp would always remain concealed, the pen is, well, just a pen.
Good luck,
John
You would have a knife, an impact weapon, and a firearm all taking up very little space. The knife and Seecamp would always remain concealed, the pen is, well, just a pen.
Good luck,
John