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Discussion in 'Tech Support, General Q&A, Site Feedback & More' started by Rat Finkenstein, Apr 1, 2011.

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  1. Apr 4, 2011 #301
    Spark

    Spark HPIC - Hatas gonna Hate Staff Member Administrator Super Mod Moderator

    13,995
    Oct 2, 1998
    Here's the thing: I hate hacking templates because once you've changed one, every time you upgrade software you have to edit it all over again. Certain things like fonts and sizes and colors are "set it and forget it" but moving things around like page numbers and stuff like that wind up being recurring changes. Multiply that by the number of templates, and the number of various styles requiring template changes, and it becomes a major undertaking.

    I'm not saying I won't do it, but I have higher priorities at the moment.

    In an ideal world, this would all be widget based so that individual widgets could be upgraded and it wouldn't affect the templates at all unless there was a major revision. As you can probably figure out, it isn't an ideal world.
     
  2. Apr 4, 2011 #302
    Rat Finkenstein

    Rat Finkenstein Gold Member Gold Member

    22,647
    May 18, 2005
    So we can all assume the guys at vbulletin either never tested their stuff, have absolutely no aesthetic sense, or just hate us all.

    All of the above?
     
  3. Apr 4, 2011 #303
    cziv

    cziv

    10,038
    Nov 24, 2005
    Thanks for this forum Spark, it's sucking a little less each day. :thumbup: I wish you would have moved the old version to a different webhost but I'm sure you considered all of that. :)
     
  4. Apr 4, 2011 #304
    Spark

    Spark HPIC - Hatas gonna Hate Staff Member Administrator Super Mod Moderator

    13,995
    Oct 2, 1998
    The host wasn't the the problem. The software support stopping was.

    Rat, they test it, but there's always problems. Lots and lots of them. Some of which never get addressed. For example, the color of the background of each post is governed by a variable named, appropriately enough, postbit_background. This has been broken since version 4.0.x I belive, and still hasn't been addressed; the software we upgraded to is now 4.1.2 (we upgraded from 3.8.7
     
  5. Apr 4, 2011 #305
    cziv

    cziv

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    Nov 24, 2005
    Well you'v sure made a heckuva lot of progress since you started a few days ago. I can't wait to see this place a month from now. I bet you get it even nicer than it is now. Thanks again. :thumbup:
     
  6. Apr 4, 2011 #306
    RetiredGuns

    RetiredGuns

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  7. Apr 4, 2011 #307
    Spark

    Spark HPIC - Hatas gonna Hate Staff Member Administrator Super Mod Moderator

    13,995
    Oct 2, 1998
    I'm working on one when I have free time.
     
  8. Apr 4, 2011 #308
    RetiredGuns

    RetiredGuns

    2,384
    Mar 13, 2009
    You have free time? Thanks for the work - the forum is easy to navigate to me just a tad bright.
     
  9. Apr 4, 2011 #309
    Spark

    Spark HPIC - Hatas gonna Hate Staff Member Administrator Super Mod Moderator

    13,995
    Oct 2, 1998
    Ok, forums just got taken down for a bit while we reconfigured vms. Doubled the cpu and things seem to be working better.
     
  10. Apr 4, 2011 #310
    hiwa

    hiwa

    2,708
    Jun 7, 2009
    I don't know all the reconfiguration jargon , but I for one am really liking the new format and am experiencing no problems. I am getting used to it and am finding navigation easier. People tend to resist change , but I think this changeover will be a good benefit in the long run and people will adapt.

    Thanks for all your hard work in putting this together.

    Pete
     
  11. Apr 4, 2011 #311
    cziv

    cziv

    10,038
    Nov 24, 2005
    I'm getting around okay now. Two things I can't wait to see. 1) Some background color to ease the glare of the blazing white background. 2) I forgot while I was posting the 1st thing.....what a dumb*ss!

    Thanks Spark! I've never seen you this patient with us in all of my years of membership!! :confused: :D
     
  12. Apr 4, 2011 #312
    Rat Finkenstein

    Rat Finkenstein Gold Member Gold Member

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    May 18, 2005
    It is light blue, about the same as it was before the change. The only thing white is the bar with avatars and names, which used to be a slightly darker blue.
     
  13. Apr 4, 2011 #313
    Spark

    Spark HPIC - Hatas gonna Hate Staff Member Administrator Super Mod Moderator

    13,995
    Oct 2, 1998
    That bar is actually a light yellow. :(

    There's a dark theme now for those of you who prefer that.
     
  14. Apr 4, 2011 #314
    Rat Finkenstein

    Rat Finkenstein Gold Member Gold Member

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    May 18, 2005
    I do see the yellow now that you mention it. I thought it was an artifact of my viewing angle.
     
  15. Apr 4, 2011 #315
    lostzebrastripes

    lostzebrastripes Therefore, you will... NARFLE THE GARTHOK!

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    May 31, 2010
    Dark grey looks good.
     
  16. Apr 4, 2011 #316
    cziv

    cziv

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    How do you get it to be dark gray? I tried a drop down in the lower left corner where you can make it large text and selected "Bold Gray" and the forum is black with white words now? :eek:

    I remember #2 thing I'm hoping for is - for those big weird looking envelopes (icons) to go away. :barf: I think Spark said several pages back that it was "on the list" but not a priority.
     
  17. Apr 5, 2011 #317
    Maniacal Pete

    Maniacal Pete

    5,902
    Oct 16, 2010
    The dark theme is nice, thanks for pointing it out.
    Lots of new stuff here.

    pete
     
  18. Apr 5, 2011 #318
    Rat Finkenstein

    Rat Finkenstein Gold Member Gold Member

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    May 18, 2005
    I do like the little green arrow indicating threads I have posted in.
     
  19. Apr 5, 2011 #319
    jacktrades_nbk

    jacktrades_nbk

    2,787
    Feb 7, 2007
    on the bold gray theme, the profile page has the links, buttons in black on dark gray
    the threads look more readable, though there still is room for tweaking the fonts and colors, and the contrast between the read and unread threads
    thanks Spark,
     
  20. Apr 5, 2011 #320
    Buffalohump

    Buffalohump

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    Sep 7, 2006
    The reversed out option is very cool, thanks! :thumbup: Tests have shown that reversed is better for the eyes.... especially if you spend as much time here as I do..... :eek:
     
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