Posts like these are why I stopped posting to this thread. It doesn't matter what I say or do on this forum. Before this thread Nocturnal Knives participated on Bladeforums very little, if at all. My former business partner updated Bladeforums every once in awhile, but that hasn't been for probably more than a year until this thread came up. We had to be told by a couple of our customers it was here. To that point, we're not trying to sell anything here, and we're not giving anyone any "special treatment" in getting their knives shipped, or refunds sent because they're on Bladeforums.
Also, more refunds than just Adian's have gone out to customers that have wanted them and back orders have also shipped. If people actually went back through the thread you could see where I've posted what refunds have gone out and responded to this thread quite a few times. And, more have gone out, or knives have shipped since then. Just because people don't post doesn't mean it's not happening.
As far as new orders are concerned, if we have something that is ready to go and already here then it gets sold. Any new order that has been placed has been for a knife that is already here and we will continue to do that. We are working on the back log and it's our priority. There are just a few fixed blades in that back log and they're getting finished up, or have already shipped. The rest of the back log is folders. If we have days that we can't work on folders because we don't have something we need we're going to work on something else, not just sit there.
Also, the ten or twelve orders we've taken in the past 8 months wouldn't account for the few thousands of dollars we've given in refunds. That's a pretty ridiculous assumption. So yeah, no new orders are getting placed to "generate money for refunds." There have been 674 new orders that haven't been taken in the past three months because they were "new custom orders" and the people were told we'll let them know when or if we take custom orders in the future.
I haven't ignored any of our customers. I have carried on with communication with all of our customers through
update@nocturnalknives.com. That has also been stated many times here on bladeforums. I'm not going to participate in a thread where speculation rules.
I specifically told Adian
NOT TO POST ON THIS THREAD just like I've told the rest of my customers not to get involved here. It's a waste of their time, and it's not their responsibility. I would say he could attest to that, but again, that is his own decision and I would rather he not get involved and waste anymore of his time. I've told this to every single customer that has received a refund, or their order. It's a waste of time for anyone to post anything positive to this thread. Even once we move on from this the folks that want to speculate and talk about "adoptions" and "thievery" and "ponzi schemes" will continue to do so.
Nocturnal Knives hasn't ever had, nor have we ever tried to focus any attention on selling our knives on Bladeforums. We have posted here and there in the past, but have never given any effort to participating here and you can see that by our post count. Our customers have communicated with us just fine without Bladeforums and will continue to do so in the future. We have turned down the requests of Bladeforums in the past to purchase a membership here because we simply never had time or the resources to have a presence here or every single place on the Internet. it's also a nightmare to try to keep track of communication coming in from ten different places. We tried that on USN for two years by purchasing our own sub-forum from them. It got to be too much so we didn't renew it after the second year. We also had a table for two years at The Gathering, but couldn't even make it the second year (anyone that went can attest to the empty table with a "Nocturnal Knives" card on it). We also aren't driven to refund anyone on a special basis (ie. squeaky wheels). I think we have proven that (good or bad) in the time frames people have received their refunds.
So, This will get seen by the few people that log on here today. It will get skimmed through, or picked apart, and more assumptions and speculations will be generated from it. It will have been meaningless for me to write because it will be three pages back by the end of next week and I will still not be communicating, refunding, or shipping. I will also apparently be getting sued, going bankrupt, taking $1000 worth of orders to cover $20,000 worth or refunds, etc. At the end of it, my responses will be "stop typing here and get back to work," or "stop typing and get a refund out," etc. and that will happen whether someone on Bladeforums says to do it or otherwise. Then in another week the responses will be "Nocturnal doesn't respond here," etc.
We are doing what we're supposed to be doing. Obviously we're going through a lot right now, but we've followed through with refunding those who have wanted it and we're trying to get the orders that we can finish out. It's been slow, but it's getting done. We're also still reworking every aspect of how we do business. I've been personally getting to all emails through
update@nocturnalknives.com much faster, and although you would never know it by reading this thread, we are expanding and we see an end to the issues in sight.
Lastly, I absolutely deleted comments on Nocturnal Knives Instagram. Some of the folks requested that the comments be deleted, were deleted by the people themselves, or I deleted them because they were either already taken care of, or just nasty comments that had no relevance to anything. Even if none of that were true, it wouldn't make much sense to leave comments about things that have already been taken care of up, does it?
