Bad Nocturnal Knives Order

3 packages "lost" but tracking numbers not showing as dropped off? How silly. That is one of those Nocturnal Lies, nothing to do with the post office.

Do you think if a business person put an expensive product in the mail to you and it was lost, he would do the same two more times? Then if those got lost he would then wire you $1,300? It doesn't even make sense.
 
Your right I'm am not sticking up for him. I have all text tracking and emails so it's not what I'm saying isn't the truth it is I was a jerk off for letting it go on so long. He said he lost 3 neckers never sent the folder but to not insure after one was lost is just not smart and I should have called him out sooner but I saw him refunding some and shipping one or two and I was stupid to let him drag me along. So I agree with all you guys are saying I don't mean to sound like I'm sticking up for him I only mentioned the transfer to get feed back on if its a bad idea because I saw that's how the other guy was to get money back, let the info fly
 
All I know is I'm out 1300$ and I have nothing to show for it I ordered the se1 folder 15 months ago and the necker about 8 months ago
 
Ok Guys,

I really hate to do this as this will scare him off but no choice left:

Gene is a fake name, his real name is Jeffrey "Eugene" Carte. See picture of the people search that Brancon did (he's a lawyer and really made a lot of this possible). If the name sounds familiar it should, it is the name of the owner of Karg knife, the very same one that stole all those knives and money from people a few years ago. You can see his texas address is the same as Jeffrey Carte, with his new Ohio address where Gene & Nocturnal just so happens to be, not to mention Jeffrey's middle name is Eugene. Links: (many more links just search).

http://edcforums.com/threads/jeff-carte-karg-knives.104233/

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...-from-kargknives-com-and-kargkonstruction-com

http://www.jerzeedevil.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-94905.html

http://knifeforums.com/forums/showtopic.php?tid/927081/

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So after him and his wife stole all the money and knives they decided to start over under new names etc. This is where "Gene" & Marie come into play. They started Nocturnal but didn't make an LLC until this year because they were afraid of exposing there name. Now he uses "Ivan Black" which Brancon has discovered does not exist. But look at the address, that is the same as Jeffrey Carte's and his dad's.
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All his personal information and Nocturnal's LLC are in a PDF that I can send to anyone scammed by him. The search was done by Brancon who is an attorney, not some internet inspector gadget.

This guy has this scheme down, he builds up a business, starts stealing and just changes names.

There have been so many vendors, friends, customers & people close to this guy that he has conned, Please spread the word and stop this guy. If you need the files, email me and I'll send them to you.
 
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neffarious said:
Amazing job everyone. Anyone on Instagram informed yet?
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Yeah I posted it on my page and a couple reposted. Unfortunately, Nocturnal has 1 or 2 fanboys that don't believe they have stolen anything from anyone. One of them says he got 3 knives and only paid for 2 and waiting years and being lied to is ok, doesn't matter what anyone says or what proof they show them. That is the attitude that these scammers thrive on.

Fortunately most people know to stay away from Nocturnal and there are a lot of post and emails about Nocturnal doing the same thing to everyone, I found out that Nocturnal also owes a lot of money to BladeHQ and they are looking for him as well.
 
10jack64 said:
Your right I'm am not sticking up for him. I have all text tracking and emails so it's not what I'm saying isn't the truth it is I was a jerk off for letting it go on so long. He said he lost 3 neckers never sent the folder but to not insure after one was lost is just not smart and I should have called him out sooner but I saw him refunding some and shipping one or two and I was stupid to let him drag me along. So I agree with all you guys are saying I don't mean to sound like I'm sticking up for him I only mentioned the transfer to get feed back on if its a bad idea because I saw that's how the other guy was to get money back, let the info fly
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My first money order was "Lost" in the mail. He said he would mail it. After waiting a week I didn't receive anything, contacted him back and he was surprised. Then sent it again.

I'm still had waiting for the bank t contact and tell me the money order was fake
 
I'm sorry Adian I didn't understand the last part of what you said you got a second and it was fake or your waiting on a second? I got a tracking number that was scanned into FedEx over nighted and they have it I also had him send me pics of the money orders of course that doesn't mean anything until I cash them and see they are real or if they are in the envelope and even then he seems to just be helping the loudest people right now so I don't think everyone will be happy. He tagged me in ig saying I saw a stack of postal money order receipts and I shut him down saying I saw a pile of receipts that I have no idea what's on them and I was referring to my post about my 2 receipts
 
Sometimes the fake money orders takes a few months before the banks realize it wasn't real. Don't think it's the case, but just something that has been lingering in my head since checking back in over here and seeing that all this is still ongoing. It's hard for me to trust after all of this and they guy not living up to his commitments
 
I got ya yea that could be something to worry about he sending a postal money order are those easily faked I was planning at cashing at post office
 
10jack64 said:
I got ya yea that could be something to worry about he sending a postal money order are those easily faked I was planning at cashing at post office
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Let me ask this question, what is literally the easiest way to pay and refund someone, Paypal. People paid him with Paypal yet he has to refund in Money order? He can't figure out how to refund in Paypal which has been proven takes less than 30 seconds, same with bank wire, yet it is always Paypal and the bank that doesn't send it. When people called Paypal they said they have no history of him trying to refund. That is because he lost his Paypal account for scamming. He sends money orders because he doesn't want you to know his real name and address, any other maker would save the money and send a personal or business check.

You can write whatever you want on an envelope address and money order.

His scam is the same as every pyramid scheme, pay a small portion of people and screw the rest. That is it.
 
I believe you are right, he completely dodged the question I asked him over text ( what is your full name?) and then again on ig it's seems real screwy someone would have such a problem with that question
 
Pittknife said:
Let me ask this question, what is literally the easiest way to pay and refund someone, Paypal. People paid him with Paypal yet he has to refund in Money order? He can't figure out how to refund in Paypal which has been proven takes less than 30 seconds, same with bank wire, yet it is always Paypal and the bank that doesn't send it. When people called Paypal they said they have no history of him trying to refund. That is because he lost his Paypal account for scamming. He sends money orders because he doesn't want you to know his real name and address, any other maker would save the money and send a personal or business check.

You can write whatever you want on an envelope address and money order.

His scam is the same as every pyramid scheme, pay a small portion of people and screw the rest. That is it.
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If he has a PayPal account, there could be existing claims against it. So if he deposit $$, it would be taken. Perhaps a seller who uses PP could clarify how it would work is claims exceed balance.
 
I'm gonna give Mike, Pittknife, another HUGE thumbs up for going the extra mile and getting to the bottom of this mess!
You are appreciated my friend!!
I have dealt with so many slime balls like this it is scary. They don't know how to tell a truth......about anything, ever!
If you do paint them into a corner, instead of just saying my bad, they will attack and put the blame on you or someone else. Typical behavior for a pathological liar.
Most importantly.....THEY WILL NEVER CHANGE!!!
Thank you Mike!
Joe
 
palonej said:
I'm gonna give Mike, Pittknife, another HUGE thumbs up for going the extra mile and getting to the bottom of this mess!
You are appreciated my friend!!
I have dealt with so many slime balls like this it is scary. They don't know how to tell a truth......about anything, ever!
If you do paint them into a corner, instead of just saying my bad, they will attack and put the blame on you or someone else. Typical behavior for a pathological liar.
Most importantly.....THEY WILL NEVER CHANGE!!!
Thank you Mike!
Joe
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Thanks Joe.

I have 2 of their blind followers trying to discredit me on Instagram. If anyone reading this thread or seen the documents I posted can't comprehend this then it is on them.

I have nothing to do with this besides my friends getting scammed which I will not stand by and watch. I don't gain anything from this, the truth is it is a headache to continue to fight these guys, but it is the right thing to do. The minute you let up is when one more person gets scammed.

I didn't do anything but report what people I know with integrity told and showed me. The credit is for guys like Brancon for doing the investigation work and all those that spoke up and shared their issues.

And to the people that continue to support Nocturnal knives, this is a poor reflection on you. It is one thing to standby and not do anything, it is another to continue supporting a con artist. There are a lot of people watching this and you may find some doors closed off to you, people talk and it will eventually catch up. Just like it has with Jeffrey Eugene Carte a POS scammer.
 
The guys still drinking the cool aide are probably waiting on knives and are afraid to say anything bad thinking it'll delay delivery.
Give those poor bastards a few more months and they'll be here bitching also!
Joe


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Thomas Linton said:
If he has a PayPal account, there could be existing claims against it. So if he deposit $$, it would be taken. Perhaps a seller who uses PP could clarify how it would work is claims exceed balance.
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I think it's more likely his Paypal account got suspended. I know he is in a world of trouble with money.

This is a very forgiving community, too much for my liking because it allows these guys to exist. But if he would of came out and be upfront that he is Jeffrey Eugene Carte of Nocturnal knives some people would have forgiven him. All he does now is not address the name issue, he posted that a single person's name is not important and that there are multiple owners of Nocturnal knives. Yeah right. I know of no other knife company that has its owner hiding his name.
 
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