Rambo V

Yonose said:
Isn’t that what happens in “The Hunted?” I heard that movie, with Benicio Tel Toro and Tommy Lee Jones was also based on the same book. Don’t know for sure, since I haven’t read it.
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Close, I've always called "The Hunted" a poor man's "First Blood", but the book "First Blood" ends with Col. Troutman blowing Rambo's head off with a riot gun.
 
TAH said:
Or more like this, with no guard :)

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or this

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JD Mandrell said:
I've always called "The Hunted" a poor man's "First Blood"...
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Actually, the closest story/movie to First Blood is Ruckus, which was released 2 years before First Blood. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084611/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_37

In the movie, Dirk Benedict uses a Buck 110 (or similar) as his "survival" knife. :)

"Kyle Hanson is a Vietnam veteran whose traumatic war-time experiences have left him unable to rejoin mainstream society. When Kyle, unkempt and in dirty fatigues, stops in a small town for some food, the local bullies can't wait for an opportunity to harass him. After Kyle uses his Special Forces training to escape the bullies, he becomes the subject of a community-wide manhunt. Only Jenny Bellows, a local girl whose husband was declared missing in action in Vietnam, is willing to give Kyle a chance."

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TAH said:
Actually, the closest story/movie to First Blood is Ruckus, which was released 2 years before First Blood. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084611/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_37

In the movie, Dirk Benedict uses a Buck 110 (or similar) as his "survival" knife. :)

"Kyle Hanson is a Vietnam veteran whose traumatic war-time experiences have left him unable to rejoin mainstream society. When Kyle, unkempt and in dirty fatigues, stops in a small town for some food, the local bullies can't wait for an opportunity to harass him. After Kyle uses his Special Forces training to escape the bullies, he becomes the subject of a community-wide manhunt. Only Jenny Bellows, a local girl whose husband was declared missing in action in Vietnam, is willing to give Kyle a chance."

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Yeah, that is actually a decent movie!
 
Jeez! Idk how Stallone's body is still holding up after all these years of HGH and steroid use and is STILL filming action movies. Well, more power to him lol
 
BadComrade said:
Jeez! Idk how Stallone's body is still holding up after all these years of HGH and steroid use and is STILL filming action movies. Well, more power to him lol
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Apparently, he's doing something right, plus hours and hours in the gym. After all, he is Rocky. :)
 
Yeah, that's just shows how out of shape I really am. :(

The worst part is I can see how much I have let myself go!
 
Bottom line, Sly is 71 and in great shape. Rambo needs to go to Mexico and "give them a war they won't believe." :)
 
navman said:
This quote is outright incorrect. Your comment about the US Military FORBIDDING the use of leather seemed strange to me, so I checked with our logistics folks here at the SOC. There is NO regulation, guidance or letter stating that leather sheaths, holsters or pouches are forbidden...across any service of the US military.

The reason you seldom find leather issued or used is that it is easier to care for and cheaper to purchase thermoplastic sheaths/holsters. Nothing to do with safety.

In fact, many of the guys I work with still carry belt knives in leather sheaths, usually knives they have personally purchased. The Pilot's Knife is still issued in a leather sheath (though most prefer a folder or multi-tool over a fixed blade).
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I spoke too broadly. Leather for fixed blade knives is by definition rejected for parachute jump-certification, and is thus in effect banned for airborne troop during jumps (this apparently after many, many injuries, after which they finally settled on an outright ban for leather and fixed knives combined ).

Your claim there is no ban of any kind is likely based on the fact that they simply don't certify leather sheaths for WEARING during jumps, but paratroopers can still have them in their rucksack... Just not on their bodies while jumping.

However... Airborne troops are still part of the Army, so what I said was not entirely false either. I just misremembered it too broadly. The information was from someone in the service and makes sense. How recent that is and where the rule is written I don't know, but that leather, as a material for fixed blade knife sheaths, is banned from being worn during jumps, sounds pretty reasonable to me.

Gaston
 
Gaston444 said:
That is why leather sheaths are now forbidden for any fixed blade knife used in the US military...: They lost their shape, softened, and people injured themselves. The military bureaucracy being what it is, they didn't go into the details of how leather could be finished to make this less severe... Your beloved brown leather turned out to be a nuisance and a safety issue on exactly the use you claimed it passed, and the very institution you draw your authority argument from has banned it for fixed blade knives.
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Gaston444 said:
I spoke too broadly.
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I'd say. :rolleyes:
 
Gaston444 said:
I spoke too broadly. Leather for fixed blade knives is by definition rejected for parachute jump-certification, and is thus in effect banned for airborne troop during jumps (this apparently after many, many injuries, after which they finally settled on an outright ban for leather and fixed knives combined ).

Your claim there is no ban of any kind is likely based on the fact that they simply don't certify leather sheaths for WEARING during jumps, but paratroopers can still have them in their rucksack... Just not on their bodies while jumping.

However... Airborne troops are still part of the Army, so what I said was not entirely false either. I just misremembered it too broadly. The information was from someone in the service and makes sense. How recent that is and where the rule is written I don't know, but that leather, as a material for fixed blade knife sheaths, is banned from being worn during jumps, sounds pretty reasonable to me.
Gaston
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First black dye was more magic than brown dye. Next leather sheaths are banned service wide. Now it is based on the fact it only applies to Airborne troops. What fact? You're just making assumptions based on your personal opinions & regurgitated info you gleaned from other posters. Mr Larsen posted earlier about vaguely recalling leather sheaths not being allowed on Airborne jumps. His opinion is credible as a veteran, yet even he did not use the word "fact". As a former Infantry medic with the 101st Airborne(Air Assault) I vaguely recall no leather sheaths during rappelling or fast roping. Of course they also didn't want you strapping anything on your LBV that might get tangled up, which included most fixed blade knives among other things. I still would not state it as a fact until I could point you to a regulation.

There is a phrase we used in the Army "Stay in your lane". You prefer to venture head on into oncoming traffic. Just stop.
 
Gaston444 said:
I spoke too broadly. Leather for fixed blade knives is by definition rejected for parachute jump-certification, and is thus in effect banned for airborne troop during jumps (this apparently after many, many injuries, after which they finally settled on an outright ban for leather and fixed knives combined ).

Your claim there is no ban of any kind is likely based on the fact that they simply don't certify leather sheaths for WEARING during jumps, but paratroopers can still have them in their rucksack... Just not on their bodies while jumping.

However... Airborne troops are still part of the Army, so what I said was not entirely false either. I just misremembered it too broadly. The information was from someone in the service and makes sense. How recent that is and where the rule is written I don't know, but that leather, as a material for fixed blade knife sheaths, is banned from being worn during jumps, sounds pretty reasonable to me.

Gaston
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Yes what you said was entirely false. Leather sheathes being banned entirely from all branches of the military and not allowing fixed blades to be worn on the body during jumps are two very different things.

What's more is the reason behind fixed blades not being allowed during jumps has nothing to do with your absurd claims about the leather falling apart when wet because it's not black enough.
 
it is beautiful, but why is the oval hole so large? could it serve any useful purpose other than weight reduction?
 
Gaston444 said:
I spoke too broadly. Leather for fixed blade knives is by definition rejected for parachute jump-certification, and is thus in effect banned for airborne troop during jumps (this apparently after many, many injuries, after which they finally settled on an outright ban for leather and fixed knives combined ).

Your claim there is no ban of any kind is likely based on the fact that they simply don't certify leather sheaths for WEARING during jumps, but paratroopers can still have them in their rucksack... Just not on their bodies while jumping.

However... Airborne troops are still part of the Army, so what I said was not entirely false either. I just misremembered it too broadly. The information was from someone in the service and makes sense. How recent that is and where the rule is written I don't know, but that leather, as a material for fixed blade knife sheaths, is banned from being worn during jumps, sounds pretty reasonable to me.

Gaston
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Once again, this is false. I am currently serving at a USSOCOM unit with qualified Jumpmasters and a large number of both SOF and regular Airborne troops (multi services). There is no mention of knife sheath materials in the USASOC REG 350-2, Airborne Operations manual. In fact, the only place that a fixed blade knife is mentioned is under individual equipment:

"(c) A strobe light (night operations only) or service approved day/night dive flare and a sharpened, fixed-blade, sheath knife. The knife will be secured in its sheath to prevent loss during operations."

Having said that, I am talking with our senior Jumpmaster, this topic piqued his interest as well, in order to be completely thorough and to clarify whether this has ever been official policy.

I also want to add that I have in the past served as both a DZSO for US Navy airborne operations and a Safety swimmer for US Army Airborne ops overseas, the type of sheath for a knife was never specified.

Also, the only thing a JM will specify regarding a fixed blade knife during a jump is location of wear. Typically a jumper will wear the blade on the lower leg, not due to the thought that the blade will push through the sheath, but for ease of access in the air and the risk of the handle getting caught on risers or other parachute parts.

About the only type of edged tool that you MAY see worn on the torso is a J-hook.
 
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