SALE ISSUE - KNIFE NOT RECEIVED

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Not many recipients are going to have the required information for a claim. "The person filing must have the original mailing receipt. Each claim must be filed within a certain time period and include proof of insurance, value, and damage."
 
SharpBits said:
Not many recipients are going to have the required information for a claim. "The person filing must have the original mailing receipt. Each claim must be filed within a certain time period and include proof of insurance, value, and damage."
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Exactly, unless the USPS is willing to accept an image that the buyer may have. And, as we have seen all too often in the "Feedback" section here, how many claims have been denied despite all the information provided to USPS by the party who sustained the loss.
 
91bravo said:
Also, remember that not everybody logs onto the forum everyday.
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Jonny, he already mentioned that he has attempted contact via multiple methods without success.

I hope to have a reply from the seller soon but so far it is radio silence on BF, Gmail and eBay.
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And, we've already noted that the seller's absence "here" is not necessarily indicative of anything. So, let's not keep going around in circles. It just makes the thread longer and more unwieldy.

Thanks.
 
Blues said:
Jonny, he already mentioned that he has attempted contact via multiple methods without success.

And, we've already noted that the seller's absence "here" is not necessarily indicative of anything. So, let's not keep going around in circles. It just makes the thread longer and more unwieldy.

Thanks.
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Sorry, I missed that.
 
SimonLG said:
I am not sure to understand the point of your questions but I will answer nonetheless. I felt the envelope before opening it and YES it looked obviously suspicious. What was I supposed to do? Not opening it? There was tape already on one end. Anyone could have claimed that I opened it and put tape back myself. What would I have gain from not opening it?

I agree that I accused him quickly of being a scammer and I change the title of the thread. I also wrote him more messages on eBay and Gmail to try to work with him. What else do you want me to do?
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Fudge it, deleted.
 
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Casinostocks said:
You have now answered the question that I had and I was not insinuating anything untoward. Your answer will add more volume to your saga in a beneficial way to you, i.e, you retrieved your "package" which looked suspiciously empty to you and that you opened it to removed all doubt in that regard!

I am afraid that this case will turn out something like this:

The seller seems to have dropped a naked fixed blade only sheathed in its kydex and no other padding around that ensemble in a regular bubbled lined envelop and then took it to a local (to him) USPS retail facility which weighed the package and charged him postage. Thereafter the knife got pinched / stolen somewhere between when it left his hands till that envelop was picked up by you at your 3rd party receiving point. This last part is also crucial because on this forum, the majority consensus is that the seller would like to be aware that he is shipping to a drop off / pick up type of address, rather than the actual address of the buyer.

In this case, I think that it will have to go through a claim process by the sender (the seller) for that $100 plus the shipping fees as his remedy. What will happen between the two of you will depend on what he is willing to gain (his reputation and status on here) vs what he is willing to lose which can be either the entirety of the transaction amount if the claim gets denied or the aforementioned.
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Thanks for that clear comment! I believe that you are right! Hopefully he will reply today. At this point I don't expect money or a knife but I would just be happy to get an answer.

I apologize to the community if I sometimes sound short and irritable. The situation is just very annoying to me but I really appreciate everyone's help and contribution.
 
Man, call me old fashioned... I refuse to use FF when making a purchase. Regardless of feedback or reputation. I will pay the extra for the protection and peace of mind. Unless I am the seller, send it however, as long as I recieve what was agreed on. I am also big on insurance even though I have never used it once.

Sucks you are out your knife / money. I hope you can get it reconciled one way or another.
 
Casinostocks said:
You have now answered the question that I had and I was not insinuating anything untoward. Your answer will add more volume to your saga in a beneficial way to you, i.e, you retrieved your "package" which looked suspiciously empty to you and that you opened it to removed all doubt in that regard!

I am afraid that this case will turn out something like this:

The seller seems to have dropped a naked fixed blade only sheathed in its kydex and no other padding around that ensemble in a regular bubbled lined envelop and then took it to a local (to him) USPS retail facility which weighed the package and charged him postage. Thereafter the knife got pinched / stolen somewhere between when it left his hands till that envelop was picked up by you at your 3rd party receiving point. This last part is also crucial because on this forum, the majority consensus is that the seller would like to be aware that he is shipping to a drop off / pick up type of address, rather than the actual address of the buyer.

In this case, I think that it will have to go through a claim process by the sender (the seller) for that $100 plus the shipping fees as his remedy. What will happen between the two of you will depend on what he is willing to gain (his reputation and status on here) vs what he is willing to lose which can be either the entirety of the transaction amount if the claim gets denied or the aforementioned.
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Nonetheless I must add that the possibility of a scam is still on the table. It is very easy to create a shipping label with a weight on it. We still don't know if there was a knife in the envelope when he shipped it. He never sent me pictures of the envelope before shipment. Most people including myself send pictures of the package before depositing it to the post office. He never did that. In my book he is not exonerated.
 
kdizzog6 said:
Man, call me old fashioned... I refuse to use FF when making a purchase. Regardless of feedback or reputation. I will pay the extra for the protection and peace of mind. Unless I am the seller, send it however, as long as I recieve what was agreed on. I am also big on insurance even though I have never used it once.

Sucks you are out your knife / money. I hope you can get it reconciled one way or another.
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Thanks for your comment! I was fine using F&F because I never had any issues with it before. Not long ago I sent 800$ to a guy for a CAROTHERS knives. I received it no problem. It's literally the first time I got issues and I've made so many trades on FB. Maybe I'll start doing like you from now on though.
 
Sadly, until we hear from the seller, anything is still possible. And the outcome is anyone's guess. Unless the seller is willing to fully refund immediately, I can easily see this getting nasty, quickly.
 
SimonLG said:
Nonetheless I must add that the possibility of a scam is still on the table. It is very easy to create a shipping label with a weight on it. We still don't know if there was a knife in the envelope when he shipped it. He never sent me pictures of the envelope before shipment. Most people including myself send pictures of the package before depositing it to the post office. He never did that. In my book he is not exonerated.
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deleted, although I have been quoted several times.
 
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SpyderPhreak said:
Sadly, until we hear from the seller, anything is still possible. And the outcome is anyone's guess. Unless the seller is willing to fully refund immediately, I can easily see this getting nasty, quickly.
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You're right! Anything is possible until we hear back from him. Honestly, I am not here to make drama though. I just want the version of the seller. I don't expect receiving any money or any knife. I'm curious to see what the mods would do though. So far it's been very fair.

Full disclosure though, if a top rated seller like Rekrapmij Rekrapmij doesn't come with an answer or solution that makes sense it will affect my trust in the BF system.
 
Casinostocks said:
Based on the photo of the bubbled lined which you had posted, it is pretty much determined that the seller went to a USPS retail outlet and they weighed that package on their scale which weighed 10.1 oz per table which shows what he was charged for postage. That is not a self generated label from a computer, which you are correct, may mass shippers like myself use that facility instead. You are going in circles again, understandably so because of your emotions, but I still think that he actually shipped you the knife which was protected in a minimal and shoddy way, revealing its silhouette which most likely caused smoke along the way to get tempted enough to steal it!

IMO, the seller must assume responsibility to pursue this matter with USPS and to come to some sort of agreement to remedy you. My final piece in this matter and good luck.
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I don't think that I am going in circles. I am not sure why you have such trust in him though. When I go at the post office they often weigh the envelope/box with the goods to generate the labels without the package being closed or anything.

Then they hand me back everything for me to package and post myself.

My point is, even if the label was generated at the USPS office it does not exonerate the seller. Again, I never received images of the package that was sent to me. It's pretty standard practice to do so. Why an experienced seller like him would not do that?
 
How about we stop spinning our wheels and see if we hear from the seller.


ETA: Since three of us moderators with oversight are in agreement on waiting to hear from the seller, any further commentary that does not move the matter forward will be moved offline.

If we do not hear from the seller in a reasonable amount of time, we will discuss the options open to us.
 
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Boru13 said:
S SimonLG have you had any contact with Rekrapmij Rekrapmij

He was on the forums last night yet failed to respond to this thread.
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He replied to me through email yesterday and gave me an unconvincing story so far, quote :

"Simon, I took some bad falls and have been laid up in bed. I mailed the knife. What's happened since? I've been completely out of the loop."

I replied to his email last night when I received it. I told him to go on Blade forum.
 
Please report back as soon as you can. Unfortunately, if you receive no acceptable resolution to the matter, our options are limited to a suspension of privileges here, or banning the account. Hopefully, it won't come to that.
 
Blues said:
Please report back as soon as you can. Unfortunately, if you receive no acceptable resolution to the matter, our options are limited to a suspension of privileges here, or banning the account. Hopefully, it won't come to that.
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Thanks! I'll keep you updated and post pictures of the whole exchange when I can. Have a great day.
 
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