Bad Shepardcc scam

ShepardCC said:
Thank you. I really appreciate that.
I'm only trying to make awesome stuff for others to enjoy. I'm not robbing or stealing or scamming people. I've just been a bit behind and suck at giving updates. But again I'm working hard to fix it. One day at a time.
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Quoted for posterity.

P.S. Nice use of the recovery tagline...I'm guessing that will be your next excuse.
 
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ShepardCC said:
Thank you. I really appreciate that.
I'm only trying to make awesome stuff for others to enjoy. I'm not robbing or stealing or scamming people. I've just been a bit behind and suck at giving updates. But again I'm working hard to fix it. One day at a time.
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I wonder what Paypal would say if you sat down with them and said, "Hey, I wanted to let you know that over the past couple of years, I have demanded and received payment through Paypal from my customers who purchased physical goods from me using the Friends & Family gift option rather than the correct appropriate Goods and Services option, and in so doing, I have kept funds that comprise Paypal's fee for myself rather than let them go to Paypal. But, going forward I won't do that anymore."? Sorry, but ignoring the large white elephant in the room will not make it go away. Stealing is stealing. You have indeed stolen from them and yet you continue to proclaim that you have not. That makes you a bold-faced liar as well.
 
Edge: PayPal will very easily raise their fees at their next annual revision and the rest of the law abiding consumers will get their "losses" spread among them as they go forward. Something which banks and insurance Cos have done ever since money was invented. Those who cheat the system ought to remember that their fellow consumers will always have to pay for the losses of revenue which they selfishly pass forward to others, through their cheating. Sobering thoughts? Only for some with a healthy conscious.
 
Hmmm.....................1 infraction for Rev > dirty language :p

I can understand the argument that if he gets banned - some of the folks he's got on the hook may not be made whole.
On the other hand how logical is it to continue to let this guy operate on BF KNOWING he does what he does. This is not a one time affair.
This guy has more dirty laundry than just about any sorry maker/craftsman that has been on BF. How does one know that he will not make good if he is banned?
Seems like he kind of does what he wants anyway. Do three people (who might be made whole) override the dozens who will fall moving forward?
You can't always save everybody - sometimes you got to look out for the majority of members. Yes, it kinda sux but, life aint always perfect.
So, he is just allowed to drag more people into his hole. How many times does he have to keep doing this before there is some consequence? In essence the nod is given and head turned.
Chicken crap if you think about it..........what does it take? Add to the fact that everyone (incl mods) know this guy steals from PP and has a sleazy biz model.
That's my two sense.
At least put him in the hall of shame.
 
Gastonknife said:
Hmmm.....................1 infraction for Rev > dirty language :p

I can understand the argument that if he gets banned - some of the folks he's got on the hook may not be made whole.
On the other hand how logical is it to continue to let this guy operate on BF KNOWING he does what he does. This is not a one time affair.
This guy has more dirty laundry than just about any sorry maker/craftsman that has been on BF. How does one know that he will not make good if he is banned?
Seems like he kind of does what he wants anyway. Do three people (who might be made whole) override the dozens who will fall moving forward?
You can't always save everybody - sometimes you got to look out for the majority of members. Yes, it kinda sux but, life aint always perfect.
So, he is just allowed to drag more people into his hole. How many times does he have to keep doing this before there is some consequence? In essence the nod is given and head turned.
Chicken crap if you think about it..........what does it take? Add to the fact that everyone (incl mods) know this guy steals from PP and has a sleazy biz model.
That's my two sense.
At least put him in the hall of shame.
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+1 Hall of Shame
 
ShepardCC said:
...I've just been a bit behind and suck at giving updates. But again I'm working hard to fix it. One day at a time.
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So... you are moving to a new business model where you sell finished goods and you are "working hard to fix" issues that you have had MANY TIMES in the past. OK. Cool. So does that mean that you are going to refund the OPs money?

Many people question if you are really going act differently going forward. Honoring a very justified request for a refund would go a long way towards convincing some people here that you are sincere about making a change. Not providing a refund to the OP will also speak volumes.
 
SpySmasher said:
You'd think so but maybe the reason the field is scarce is that it doesn't pay the bills. I don't know. It's too bad that there isn't a robust industry of custom scale makers out there. Professional knife sharpening services seem to be fairly stable.
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To be fair: I can't pay the bills with sharpening either and I'm sure I can sharpen a knife much, much faster than he can make scales. Granted, I don't charge near as much to sharpen a blade as I'm sure he does to make a scale.
 
His website still shows the nonfunctional Yahoo mail address and mentions nothing about the supposedly new G&S policy. People still seem to wait for delivery. "One day at a time" is fine. But how many days would it take to show some real actions? Without seeing them, how can we trust his words and promises, since I know that he can just lies straight.
 
T.L.E. Sharp said:
To be fair: I can't pay the bills with sharpening either and I'm sure I can sharpen a knife much, much faster than he can make scales. Granted, I don't charge near as much to sharpen a blade as I'm sure he does to make a scale.
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To me, this is very good information. My guess would be that in the knife pimping business, the margins are very thin, mostly because of the perceived value. If you have to spend "custom knife" money to customize a production knife, it's not nearly as attractive to your average buyer. Pimpers end up having to live on really slim profits.
 
SpySmasher said:
To me, this is very good information. My guess would be that in the knife pimping business, the margins are very thin, mostly because of the perceived value. If you have to spend "custom knife" money to customize a production knife, it's not nearly as attractive to your average buyer. Pimpers end up having to live on really slim profits.
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A single focus in the knife "pimping" racket isn't going to make much profit. If you're sharpening while a batch of cerakote cures, handles are in the tumbler or while the CNC is running I'd imagine you could make a living at it. Making sure that down time is also earning.

I just do the sharpening as a side hobby. A way to fund my knife fetish. Like @Keyman does with scales or @Gary W. Graley with sheaths, we've got day jobs. Very few are lucky enough to make a living from it.

I really like the idea of Eric switching it up and selling pre-made scales. I'd certainly prefer to buy them this way; from Eric or anyone else for that matter.
 
The problem, as I see it is Eric has made this exact statement MANY times in the past.
This exact statement.......and nothing ever changed.
I was in a similar situation with him over a year ago. Promised 3 weeks. Would ONLY accept F&F. Waited a month to E mail him. Took over a week to get back to me. Asked me what I ordered. I told him and sent another pic of what I ordered. Another month went by. He made the wrong style scale.
Took another 2 months to complete ONE scale. Never reached out to me. When I would reach out, he would send arrogant and sarcastic e mails back.
At the end he profusely apologized, sent a bunch of
free stuff and SWORE he would never take custom orders again.
Sound familiar??
I shortened the story, but I was really ready to choke him.
I understand Rev's position, but I don't agree with it. Too many good new members will be sucked into his shit.
Joe
 
palonej said:
The problem, as I see it is Eric has made this exact statement MANY times in the past.
This exact statement.......and nothing ever changed.
I was in a similar situation with him over a year ago. Promised 3 weeks. Would ONLY accept F&F. Waited a month to E mail him. Took over a week to get back to me. Asked me what I ordered. I told him and sent another pic of what I ordered. Another month went by. He made the wrong style scale.
Took another 2 months to complete ONE scale. Never reached out to me. When I would reach out, he would send arrogant and sarcastic e mails back.
At the end he profusely apologized, sent a bunch of
free stuff and SWORE he would never take custom orders again.
Sound familiar??
I shortened the story, but I was really ready to choke him.
I understand Rev's position, but I don't agree with it. Too many good new members will be sucked into his shit.
Joe
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1000% agree with Joe. Same old story over & over & over & over & over AGAIN!

I just had someone ask for a recommendation for a custom scale maker, I told him who I would NOT recommend.
 
SpySmasher said:
To me, this is very good information. My guess would be that in the knife pimping business, the margins are very thin, mostly because of the perceived value. If you have to spend "custom knife" money to customize a production knife, it's not nearly as attractive to your average buyer. Pimpers end up having to live on really slim profits.
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A lot of businesses survive on thin margins. He chose to do this, nobody put a gun to his head and forced him to try and make a living turning out knife handles. He also chooses to lie to and steal from his would-be customers.
 
JohnWE said:
A lot of businesses survive on thin margins. He chose to do this, nobody put a gun to his head and forced him to try and make a living turning out knife handles. He also chooses to lie to and steal from his would-be customers.
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I'm not defending him. I was having a conversation with someone else about the dearth of professional scale makers and how it "seems" like a opportunity. :/
 
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