spyderco para military

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Kennieyk said:
also with the 22 dollar dodo being a drop shipment would seem to make the price higher then other sites!
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how would reducing steps in the supply chain and not having to pay for additional storage, shipping, and handling increase the price?
 
hardheart said:
how would reducing steps in the supply chain and not having to pay for additional storage, shipping, and handling increase the price?
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the knives are being stored some where ! reducing the supply chain would be getting them right from spyderco , even Sal G. SAID he cant make the knives at the prices hes selling them for ! lastly the knives still have a shipping cost !
yet hes offering freee shipping on these orders .. if yu added in shipping charges thats well over a 70 dollar difference in price !

drop shipping imo would add to the cost of the knife !
 
I don't think so.

The usual chain would be from manufacturer to distributor to dealer to customer. Drop shipping cuts out the dealer as an intermediate destination.

As to how these knives can be so cheap from the distributor, consider the possibility that he is not getting them from the manufacturer but as a lot from a failed business, for pennies on the dollar, and he wants to move them out fast.
 
I noticed that a large number of prices have been corrected and several knives have been removed from the list (Kopas for example). SO it sounds like the window is closing.
 
Quite likely. If my understanding is correct, he has an ever-changing supply stream, and needs to be flexible in constantly updating his stock and his listings. A regular dealer, with a steady supply stream through normal channels, will consistently charge more but will carry a more consistent stock as well.
 
I don't know if it's related to this store's situation, but if you do a froogle search for Emerson Commanders, there are other places offering them for less that $30 as well. Could some huge knife distributor have gone under?
 
I doubt it. More likely, many smaller dealers have gone under, or disposed of stock they couldn't sell. If one large distributor went out of business, then one major beneficiary would be selling all of the bargain knives, not a few here and there.
 
I just checked the site again and it looks like all the really good deals on the Spyderco knives are all sold out. I ordered an assortment of knives more or less to see if I would get any of them. I have only got one e-mail that stated that the Para-Military I ordered was sold out and they refunded my money for that one already. I still have several othes that I might actually get.


If this was a scam, I think they would take all the money and not refund part of it. If this was a mistake, I don't see why they would say that only one knife was sold out. I am not sure what to think. If this turns out to be a real deal, I will be kicking myself for not ordering more knives. I bet some people will be wishing they ordered as well if I really get a Stretch for $25 or whatever it was. If it turns out to not be for real, I am sure we will all get laughed at by the wiser ones.

If nothing else, it is fun to anticipate. I feel like it is X-mass eve and I am 11 years old. I can't wait, I can't wait. I just hope it is not another one of those X-masses where all my hopes and dream go down the toilet with a kick to the head from a steel toe boot, worn by my drunken abusive father. :eek:
 
Kennieyk said:
the knives are being stored some where ! reducing the supply chain would be getting them right from spyderco , even Sal G. SAID he cant make the knives at the prices hes selling them for ! lastly the knives still have a shipping cost !
yet hes offering freee shipping on these orders .. if yu added in shipping charges thats well over a 70 dollar difference in price !

drop shipping imo would add to the cost of the knife !
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aho doesn't have to have a physical location, employees, or his own time to store the product; and there is only one shipping charge (unless internat'l, as stated) from the distributor to the end user, not two from the dist. to aho (to store until sold) and then to the customer. On the other end, the distributor doesn't need to pay for bandwidth, a webmaster, or people to process retail orders from around the country/world, they continue to sell to 'retailers', just having to print out more shipping labels but on the same accounts.
 
well your saying Sal G ships them to distributor ,, distributor ships to buyer ! I still dont understand how he is selling them 70 dollars below what other sites are selling them for ,, And the website that has the dodo is way under M.S.R.P. ~! Sal said in a early post he cant even make them at the prices listed on aho's website ..
Sal Glesser said:
We sure can't build them for that price, and we haven't closed out any so ????

My guess is that someone made a mistake.

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If some business went under and sold the lot to another company ,, why would the new owners sell at a 70 dollar loss per knife ? Thats the dodo and i'm sure there were others listed that was much more better deals then the dodo ..


I know if I bought 300 dodos from a company going under for dirt cheap ,, I would be sure to check the curent prices of other sites and maybe knock 10 bucks off that price ,,, but 70 dollars below ???? come on now ! :)
 
Kennieyk said:
If some business went under and sold the lot to another company ,, why would the new owners sell at a 70 dollar loss per knife ?
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If a business goes bankrupt, the creditors get what they can for whatever fixtures or stock remains, and that's likely to be very little, since they just want everything liquidated quickly. They don't want to call in the experts and get everything inventoried and appraised, which costs money in itself, and delays them getting anything out of their debtor. Delay may mean someone else pops up with rights to whats left, also.

So the knives which sold for real money once can now be picked up by a jobber for pennies on the dollar, and even he doesn't want to keep them on his shelves any longer than necessary. So he lets them go to a dealer who will do the paperwork and cultivate the individual customers.

Of course they would all like to make big bucks on it, but that can take time, establishing themselves in a marketplace that already has reputable dealers. So they take a small profit, possible because they got the knives in bulk, and move them on out. This also gets them known a little better, and brings customers to remember and deal with them later on.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
If a business goes bankrupt, the creditors get what they can for whatever fixtures or stock remains, and that's likely to be very little, since they just want everything liquidated quickly. They don't want to call in the experts and get everything inventoried and appraised, which costs money in itself, and delays them getting anything out of their debtor. Delay may mean someone else pops up with rights to whats left, also.

So the knives which sold for real money once can now be picked up by a jobber for pennies on the dollar, and even he doesn't want to keep them on his shelves any longer than necessary. So he lets them go to a dealer who will do the paperwork and cultivate the individual customers.

Of course they would all like to make big bucks on it, but that can take time, establishing themselves in a marketplace that already has reputable dealers. So they take a small profit, possible because they got the knives in bulk, and move them on out. This also gets them known a little better, and brings customers to remember and deal with them later on.
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establishing themselves with knives 10 dollars below all other internet dealers would have worked ! Maybe even getting more business ! Like all the people here having doubts and thinking its a scam or knockoff knives ! His business is selling stuff ! Hes not trying to make a name in the knife dealer business ! He sellls a ton of other stuff besides knives .

I worry even more when he said he has never even seen these knives ! all he said is hes never had a complaint .. most victims of scam and getting knock off knives will just suck up this as a loss ! some may not even know a spyderco from a knockoff ! Another thing as far as i know ,, no one knows how many knives this guy has sold !


You people are gonna have to show me i'm wrong :) then i can kick my self in the butt for not taking advantage of this !

I hope it is for real !
 
Um ... Esav didn't explain why they're so cheap. He explained one possible reason that could be the reason why they are so cheap. There are other possibilities, some of which have already been explained by others. It could be legitimate; that's all we can say at this point.
 
Here are some of the prices on the Spydercos before they all sold out.
I don't see any real pattern to the way they are priced. Look at the Centofante 4, it is $14.27 which is a great price but the ATR Titanium is only $26.63 yet it has more than twice the MSRP. I would feel better if I saw a patten like all the knives were closed out at 80% off or something. You know what I mean?

A.T.R., Black Blade/ Handle, Plain, Pocket Clip $22.66
A.T.R., Black Blade/Handle, Serrated, Pocket Clip $22.66
A.T.R., Stainless Handle, Plain $22.57
A.T.R., Titanium Handle, ComboEdge $26.63
Almite R2, Almite Coated Aluminum Handle, Plain $14.27
Almite R2, Almite Coated Aluminum Handle, Serrated $14.27
Centofante 4, Black FRN Handle, Wharncliffe Blade, Plain $14.18
D'Allara2 Rescue, Black FRN Handle, Plain, Pocket Clip $18.62
Dodo, Black G-10 Handle, Plain $21.84
Dodo, Black G-10 Handle, Serrated $23.11
Impala, G-10 Handle, Plain $14.85
Karambit, Plain $23.14
Kopa, Cocobolo Handle, Plain $23.05
Kopa, Gold Pearl Handle, Plain $29.13
Kopa, Tiger Coral Handle, Plain $25.16
Kopa, Turquoise Handle, Plain $29.13
Manix, Black G-10 Handle, ComboEdge, Pocket Clip $34.55
Para Military, G-10 Handle, Black Blade, Plain $26.42
Para Military, G-10 Handle, Black Blade, Serrated $20.10
Para Military, G-10 Handle, Serrated $25.09
Persian, Black Micarta Handle, Plain $21.86
Stretch, Black Kraton Handle, Plain $26.32
Yojimbo, Blue G-10 Handle, Plain $23.60
 
Dodo, Black G-10 Handle, Plain (59400|C80GPBK)
Features a 2.17 in. CPMS30V arced belly blade. 4.36 in. black G-10 handle. New Ball Bearing Lock locking mechanism. A flexible wire clip can be... $21.84

vs

Jester, Black FRN Handle, Plain (60662|JBKP)
Features a 1.94 in. AUS-6 steel blade. 2.50 in. black FRN handle with a lanyard hole for a key chain or tie-on.Product average shipping time: 2 to 3... $30.55


Stretch, Black Kraton Handle, Comboedge (79752|C90PS)
Features a 3.50 in. full VG-10 stainless steel comboedged blade and a black kraton inlay handle that is great for skinning, caping, and extreme... $114.72


vs



Stretch, Black Kraton Handle, Plain (79751|C90P)
Features a 3.50 in. full VG-10 stainless steel plain blade and a black kraton inlay handle that is great for skinning, caping, and extreme cutting.... $26.32



Whats up with the prices ! 88 dollars more for a combo edge ??????
 
Some of the knives are listed more than once, so probably more than one supplier, each with a different price. They could have listed these at ten bucks less than the competition, but then they'd have to define the competition and find out their prices. Plus, these knives don't sit in aho's possession, while he's waiting to sell a dodo at $50 or something, someone else in drop shipping has them listed at 20 and is selling them all before he puts in an order to the supplier.

Like Cougar said, it's only one possible explanation, we'll see soon enough.
 
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