Strider Knives, Game Over!

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hotrodKelley - Typically we require people absconding with cash without delivery of knives / whatever. If you look at the current Hall of Shame people, they've run off money, usually from multiple people, and refuse to make right.
 
Spark said:
I don't think you understand the concept behind the Hall of Shame forum.
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Apparently not. I guess if you lie and steal from people and promise to deliver a knife, and don't, you're in. If you lie about your military service, and make money off that, you're not.
 
The Hall of Shame is supposed to warn everybody if you send that person money you probably won't get a knife for it.
 
hotrodKelley said:
Apparently not. I guess if you lie and steal from people and promise to deliver a knife, and don't, you're in. If you lie about your military service, and make money off that, you're not.
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If Spark or anyone here did stick Strider knives in that hall of shame you and others here like you would be the first on board to claim it was not appropriate or jumping the gun to do so and you know it!

STR
 
Cougar Allen said:
The Hall of Shame is supposed to warn everybody if you send that person money you probably won't get a knife for it.
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Couldn't it also be used to warn people that certain knife-makers aren't who they are suppose to be. I understand that their stories and lies are upsetting to those who actually do/did the work. I get it, really I do. I'm not supporting their lies nor am I opposed to them as the knife-makers that they are. I like their folders. I just don't understand why these threads keep coming up when it would just be easier to post in the Shame section or a sticky. I mean these stories surface and these types of threads go on and on. That is why I suggested what I did.
 
flipe8 said:
Actually, there hasn't been a post about this over there(to this point), so it's pretty much you trying to start something from what I've read.
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1. Since I don't have an account there anymore, I can't know that.
2. It makes no difference. Loyal supporters make their annoying posts here (same methods as always!), and sooner or later some "watchful eyes" will see that and reward them. Or punish them if they say something that isn't supportive. (happened to me and others)
This system has been working for years. It surprises me, that this isn't old news to you.

BTW, the Strider duo themselves prefer to post in forums where inconvenient questions can be deleted and critics can be banned. A supporting mob that insults critics and make discussions impossible will do, too.
That's why they don't show up here.

@hotrod:
Sorry, I don't know if you have an account there and I don't care. Your posts in this particular thread are annoying anyway. I guess it's your main intention and it has to do with your strider supporting.


Now that I said it, I hope the horde won't come here again to "fight" like last time. It was ridiculous. :o
 
STR said:
If Spark or anyone here did stick Strider knives in that hall of shame you and others here like you would be the first on board to claim it was not appropriate or jumping the gun to do so and you know it!

STR
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Thanks, but I'm the one who suggested it in the first place. Can you read?
 
DocArnie - Stop with the cross forum BS. This is going to be your first and only warning.
 
hotrodKelley said:
Thanks, but I'm the one who suggested it in the first place. Can you read?
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My point exactly. You'd just love to set up a damned if he does damned if he doesn't situation to find more ways to argue and add drama and emotion to the thread to bring up the intensity. Thats my belief anyway, and based on past posts you made.

STR
 
STR said:
My point exactly. You'd just love to set up a damned if he does damned if he doesn't situation to find more ways to argue and add drama and emotion to the thread to bring up the intensity. Thats my belief anyway, and based on past posts you made.

STR
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Believe what you want, I could care less. If Spark set it up in the Hall or a sticky, I wouldn't make one post in there. Not one.
 
hotrodKelley said:
Believe what you want, I could care less. If Spark set it up in the Hall or a sticky, I wouldn't make one post in there. Not one.
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In fact, you guys can delete all the posts I made in this thread, if you want. I however laughed at my tool comment to that docarnie, it was funny.:D
 
PatriotDan said:
Open question to anyone: why do you think there are real deal, respected knife makers and real deal professional soldiers supporting Mick and Duane? Is there something we don't know? Something not known publicly?

Among the supporters: Kit Carson, Tom Mayo, Bill Harsey, Pat Rogers, Jerry Hossom, Neil Ostroff, Ryan Johnson, numerous verified special operations soldiers from several discussion forums,...

Look at the these names. Think about the Soldiers, Sailors and Marines. These are not just anybody. These are very important figures in knives, big names in knifemaking and knifedealing and others in the special operations scene. They talk the talk, walk the walk. They know the deal. Why do they support Mick and Duane?

Yes, I know I'm going to get flak for posting this but I am genuinely interested in what people think!

(To make things clear, yes, I'm a Mick and Duane supporter that's no secret. I'm also a active duty soldier. How complicated. Does all this make me a tool, poser, sucker and biased in my posting?)

Thanks, Dan
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Well interesting questions. I know in regards to Mick both the US Army Ranger Assoc. and the 75th Ranger Assoc were contacted. Both outfits were nice enough to talk to me and say that by their records Mick was in the Rangers as claimed. Both outfits were pretty much staying out of it after that IIRC. I think right now everyone is either actively looking or in my case as a mod at ArmyRanger.com waiting for someone to come along who remembers him from his time there to see what they have to say on the matter. We at Army Ranger.com do our verifications a bit differently than most. In the case of being at Bat someone already verified has to have known you at Bat and if you are claiming a Tab then either someone knows you or checks are run at RTB. I have been told by many that if there is one set of records correct in the world it is the records at RTB.

As far as Duane I don’t know much about him, I know this has come up before though. I was told last time that Duane was able to produce a photo of his sniper school graduation. I have seen fake diplomas online for just about every school out there but I would think a photo is a bit harder to fake. I am waiting on more info at the moment.

I also know that when I bring this up with one of the Admins on SOCNET, it gets squashed. I know they have A LOT of resources at their disposal. And I know they have A LOT of folks over there with some really impressive backgrounds. So maybe they know something we don’t.


I know I for one would either like to see Mick and Duane cough up some proof to end this once and for all or repent. I know this originally has been a private little fight between some competing people and people with hurt egos. If the accusations are true then that doesn’t really matter though, if they are proven false this will have been a very long running witch hunt.
 
I think thats the photo posted on POWnetwork isn't it?

One thing I see that has not been mentioned so far I don't think, I can only find where others have made the claims to Duane being a 'confirmed sniper with an impressive kill count' or anything else of that nature. I have not found one place where Duane said anything of the sort publically in a post or otherwise. Come to think of it I don't recall ever seeing a post by Duane at all.

It is interesting however that his 'bros' have said as much on several occasions in various forums. This indicates to me that they learned it from Duane either privately or that they know of where it has been claimed.

Does anyone have a single source where Duane made these claims? I don't see it.

Also, according to Mary and Chuck Schantag at P.O.W.Network www.pownetwork.org when it comes to records of claims, "Classified, lost, burned records are bogus excuses."



STR
 
STR said:
I think thats the photo posted on POWnetwork isn't it?

One thing I see that has not been mentioned so far I don't think, I can only find where others have made the claims to Duane being a 'confirmed sniper with an impressive kill count' or anything else of that nature. I have not found one place where Duane said anything of the sort publically in a post or otherwise. Come to think of it I don't recall ever seeing a post by Duane at all.

It is interesting however that his 'bros' have said as much on several occasions in various forums. This indicates to me that they learned it from Duane either privately or that they know of where it has been claimed.

Does anyone have a single source where Duane made these claims? I don't see it.

Also, according to Mary and Chuck Schantag at P.O.W.Network www.pownetwork.org when it comes to records of claims, "Classified, lost, burned records are bogus excuses."



STR
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To me the photo at POWnet looks like his local SRT team. I can’t really see that being a graduation photo from sniper school. I don’t have anything to add on claims made by Duane because I have never heard any from him or seen anything by him. I have just seen the same stuff in print that everyone else has.


edited to add the caption right beside the photo states it is the SRT team and not a graduation photo
 
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