Hey Justabuyer, At this time, it appears we are unable to get along. So I'll continue to admire the objects of your collection (I'm a fan of Strider brand folders and Busse brand knives and even own and torment some Busse brand knives) and admire your dedication in obtaining the best of best hard use production cutlery and you can keep using "Cliff Speak" to describe what I write when I disagree or feel upset with you. You didn't owe me a response or reply, but you've been kind enough to provide them and for that I thank you. I apologize for letting my emotions get the best of me and being inhospitable to you. That was wrong of me and you're within your rights if you don't accept my apology.