Strider Knives, Game Over!

[Mike G]

Sky Masterson, you seem to be an expert at spewing garbage, but yet offer no proof to back up what you are saying.

Most of the people here are simply looking for the truth, and once the truth is proven, then this goes away. Very simple. I really don't understand why that simple concept escapes some people.

Now, I had a report that there is a post elsewhere on the net that Michelle cannot post here.

I'm not sure whay, but she is not banned, or restricted in any way shape or form.

Also, for the people out there that think Spark is editing threads and posts to further his 'agenda', offer me up some proof, or shut up.

My PM and email address is available to everyone. invadr1@msn.com

 

[teacher]

"sky" you are full of it ... BS spews from your posts..

AND once again, you have proven it when you posted the one I quoted below.

Go back to post #1694 & #1695 ... the ones that began your latest BS and answer some of those questions.... don't pass them by "son"......

But for now....... this post .......

Teach-
I stand by everything stated in my post.I don't B.S.I don't need 74 posts on this thread (Yep Teach has 74 posts on this thread) to make a point.

"sky" boy.... I could care less what you "stand by"....
............most all of what you have said is BS............ PERIOD....
Call it any name you like, but it is still BS.

IF you can't see that it ain't my problem. ( AND... if I in fact have 74 posts in this thread....... This will be # 75.... so be sure to mark it down on your tally sheet.]

Since you posted my profile,i didn't have enough room to add--
served 6 years Army Reserve as a medic,rank of S.Sgt.Served 9 years as a Nassau County Aux. Police Officer. This is why i support Mick & Duane,no matter what MOS they had,they served our country.

Sure you had enough room you just don't know what you are doing.

When doing your profile setup it does not have to all fit in the little box... you can fit two or three lines or more in there.... just keep typing.

Now, go back and EDIT your profile and just do it right .... it'll work for you.... then you can "fit in" the valuable info you want us to know.

You can also come back on here and give ole' "Teach" credit for teaching you something son..........

BUT.... MUCH MORE IMPORTANTLY .... You support Mick & Duane, no matter what ????

YOU DON'T care IF they lied and dressed up the report ???

In my book.... that is a pathetic statement .........

You say you did / do this.........
..........""Served 9 years as a Nassau County Aux. Police Officer.""

IF you are still doing this.... And have no more interest in the Truth than what your statement exhibits.
You should never work another shift.

I repeat....
....YOU SHOULD NEVER WORK ANOTHER SHIFT ... as a LEO of any type.....

Also Teach,you questioned my sig line by Les Robertson.Les is one of the most read and experienced men in the business.Yet he is banned on this forum (the free speech forum).

I don't give a rats rear end who wrote your sig line..... it is not accurate as it is written...... I call it BS.

Post #1695 explains why I call it BS.... of course you failed to address that....... :jerkit:

Wolfmann-At the last 4 NY knife shows,no one had a Blade Forums nametag.Why has this stopped? Is it because these smear threads hurt the whole knife industry? Many B.F. members are ashamed of this.Bill Martino,James Mattis,Walter Welsh are rolling over in their graves.V.G.would
be making jokes.

I don't know anything much about these guys..... BUT from the response you have gotten so far from your little "jewel" of a statement.......

I'd have to say it looks like you..... "POOPED in YOUR WHEATIES" .... when you posted it.......

Those who can--Do
Those who can't--Teach (and talk endlessly)

YEP, "sky" old boy.... I did "Teach" for 28 yrs before I retired from that.
[In fact, did you ever go to school anywhere in Alabama ? It appears you have the reasoning capacity of some students I taught during that time....]

Before that time ... during that time .. and now .. I did / do a lot of other things..
....take that however you wish.....

I might just be one of.........
""Those who can--Do"" .... like you mentioned just above.

Might not though ????

Speculate if you care to.....
....the moment that truly defines that for you, might or might not ever come ????
Hard to say ...........
You have a good one .......

Oh yeah...as far as your statement .... ...""(and talk endlessly)""..........

sky,sky,sky.... I am usually a fairly quiet guy..... but after reading a few days of some people posting BS and garbage [such as yours]... I could keep silent no longer.... :thumbup:

So thanks to you and yours for drawing me in.... it has been eye opening to say the least.........

 

[MORIMOTOM]

Those who can--Do
Those who can't--Teach (and talk endlessly)

i both "do" and "teach". am i then a doer? or a teacher? identity crisis i suppose.


minor derailment, but if no one ever taught, how would anyone ever learn to "do"?

the doers may be done doing, or may still do and teach. the teachers may have done, currently do, or are in the process of ceasing to do. are teachers incompetent because they no longer do? if they are, would the still be teachers, or doers?

 

[sky masterson]

People in my county like and appreciate the work of the auxilliary police,
we are always available,and we are not paid.Nassau & Suffolk counties are
among the best police departments in the state.The aux. are carefully vetted
and trained over a 1 year period.I have received a special award from the county supervisor,i am proud of that.

So Teach-who the hell are you to say i should not be a aux.PO.
75 posts of garbage,& you're still going on!

Uncle Bill Martino and James Mattis were my friends too.I apoligize to anyone who felt offended by my posts, i shouldn't have mentioned these beloved men in this thread.

 

[wolfmann601]

Geeze Sky, I guess it's time to apologize. I did not know you served 9 years with the Nassau County Police Aux., wow. I was born and raised in Nassau and have close immediate family who retired from and are still members of the NCPD, what a Department!!

Wow, I wished I could have been an Aux. Policeman and worked with you, a guy who communicates with the dead and knows what they were thinking and knows that all 103,000 members of BFC are ashamed and embarassed to tell folks they are members here.

These uncanny abilities must have made you the most valued Aux. Cop on Long Island...............wow!!!

Kids read this but few speak Yiddish:

Gai Avek kolboynik petseleh!!! Strider toches-lecker

 

[RWS]

Looks like good ol' sky has successfully diverted the thread by getting the scope's cross-hairs drawn off of his good buddy OSOK Duane and on to himself........anything to save a pal, right sky?:thumbup:

 

[roughedges]

...toches-lecker

I had a bit of a Hebrew Beavis moment here. :foot: Been called a kolboynik a time or two as well.



Back to the topic at hand... did webster's revise the definition of "soon" and I just didn't get the memo?

 

[Spark]

Just to address the rumor / outright fabrication that I'm editing posts: I don't know who is the moron behind that floating that outlandish garbage, but the vB software logs each time a moderator / admin does anything for security reasons.

Each and every time I edit a post / thread, it's logged in there. You know what is missing? Why, it's any indication that I'm editing posts in this thread (except for the one time I edited out the name of Mick Strider's kid)! You know why that is? Because I don't edit posts unless absolutely necessary. And guess what? I don't have a problem showing the control panel logs. Hell, according to the control panel, "There are 21,677 total log entries" for me. Strange how all these supposed ones where I'm editing this thread are nowhere to be found. It's almost like (gasp) they never existed...

I will say this though, the faithful must be getting pretty desperate to make up lies like this, especially since they can be discredited without any effort. Between this and lying about being banned, I wonder what's next?

So, if there aren't anymore urgent fabrications & falsehoods to deal with, has any proof been delivered about Dwyer actually being a 100% bona-fide, real deal, USMC Scout Sniper?

 

[Ed T]

I think that this is being twisted a bit.

I interpretted her statement about not being able to post is a reflection about her own limits of patience with the process. I think she was stateing that she will not participate in the thread any longer.

Does that make sense? She did not say she was banned.

I have said I should walk away. But don't seem to. I am not even a Strider fiathful . I have just argued that the process is kind of slimy.

 

[Ed T]

I can't even spell Strider Faithful, lol. I would edit it but I am afraid someoned would throw a rock at SPARK.

 

[teacher]

BUT.... MUCH MORE IMPORTANTLY .... You support Mick & Duane, no matter what ????

YOU DON'T care IF they lied and dressed up the report ???

In my book.... that is a pathetic statement .........

You say you did / do this.........
..........""Served 9 years as a Nassau County Aux. Police Officer.""

IF ..you are still doing this.... And ....have no more interest in the Truth than what your statement exhibits.

You should never work another shift

I repeat....
....YOU SHOULD NEVER WORK ANOTHER SHIFT ... as a LEO of any type......

People in my county like and appreciate the work of the auxilliary police,
we are always available,and we are not paid.Nassau & Suffolk counties are
among the best police departments in the state.The aux. are carefully vetted
and trained over a 1 year period.I have received a special award from the county supervisor,i am proud of that.

Same in my county and state sir.

They do a thankless job in many cases and are way UNDER APPRECIATED.

I am also sure you all have been trained.... and you should be proud of your award.

That was never in question here.......

BUT, you are still dodging and weaving.... YOU WILL NOT ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.

YOU AVOID THEM.

WHY ?

You totally ignore what I said in the quote of myself above....

In a nutshell you said you supported Mick & Duane.... NO MATTER WHAT......

...[ it's up there, read it yourself and address it if you dare to...]

Note the now big ""IF" .... & ... "And"

If they apply... then you should hang it up........

So Teach-who the hell are you to say i should not be a aux.PO.
75 posts of garbage,& you're still going on!

"Who the hell am I to say that" ? you ask...

I am the guy with "76" posts now that you will not give a simple answer to.....

DO YOU SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO LIE SUCH AS MICK HAS DONE and it appears very likely Duane has done also?

DO YOU CONDONE THIS BEHAVIOR ?


ps / On a lighter note.... I have typed you a message in my profile under the heading FAVORITE KNIFE that will show you how many words you can get in.

You have plenty of room to get in all your stuff. Just EDIT your Profile.

You can thank me... ole' "Teach" ..... later ....

 

[Ed T]

Teacher.

This is a good example of changing standards.
When A Strider faithful says something, it is ok to attack character, backgroud, etc.

When Strider Faithful attack backgrounds, people whine, proclaim obfuscation and tell people to stay on track.

Both sides are off.

Also, Are you suggesting you are a secret squirrel now between semesters? May have been saving the world during recess, lol?

Edited to add it was dumb to drag those names into this.

 

[teacher]

Teacher.
Also, Are you suggesting you are a secret squirrel now between semesters? May have been saving the world during recess, lol?

Negative Ed T.... my "Secret Squirrel" ... cape & mask & Status was revoked in the 6th grade.... sadly from then, to present day; I have only been a lowly "squirrel".

No cape, no mask, no status.........

HOWEVER....... I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once........

 

[roughedges]

Teacher.

This is a good example of changing standards.
When A Strider faithful says something, it is ok to attack character, backgroud, etc.

When Strider Faithful attack backgrounds, people whine, proclaim obfuscation and tell people to stay on track.

Both sides are off.

Also, Are you suggesting you are a secret squirrel now between semesters? May have been saving the world during recess, lol?

Edited to add it was dumb to drag those names into this.

c'mon now, Ed T. His response said that, in addition to a "teacher", he is or could also be a "doer". For example, when I got out of bed this morning I brushed my teeth. I'm a toothbrusher. It is pure speculation on your part as to what he was referring to.


Teacher should have left personalities out of his "75th" post, sure, but you will notice that the entire post was made in response to another that was almost entirely an unnecessary and unfair attack against him.


In other words, I have seen very little to no discussion of poster's personalities except when one of the faithful decides to chime in with insults, insinuation or baseless accusations that so transparently serve no other purpose but to change the friggen subject.


"When a Strider faithful says something..." IN THIS THREAD, its a surefire clue that someone's personality is very likely about to be attacked, motives will be called into question, absurd accusations will be made and an attempted topic change is sure to follow. Before chastising Teacher, and other posters on that side of the fence, why not work on getting those who start the personal attacks to stop it and come with some real info instead of the schoolyard BS? I'm willing to bet that we'll all see a total cessation of personal attacks if you accomplish that, Ed.

 

[Ed T]

I don't think anyone can accomplish that.

I do not think you are suggesting that it is OK as long as the others started it are you?

Also, if those stop, I think the thread will die, lol.

 

[Cougar Allen]

Teacher.

This is a good example of changing standards.
When A Strider faithful says something, it is ok to attack character, backgroud, etc.

When Strider Faithful attack backgrounds, people whine, proclaim obfuscation and tell people to stay on track.

What are you talking about???

Both sides are off.

That's something you keep saying and I keep letting go, but ... what exactly do you mean by that? If 0.5% of the people posting questioning Duane's truthfulness seem to be more or less mentally defective and posting incoherent nonsense (keeping in mind that 0.5% of the posters can type considerably more than 0.5% of the posts) is it valid to lump the other 99.5% in with a couple of loonies and say the people questioning Duane's truthfulness are just as "off" as the people trying to evade the questions on his behalf?

Is it even valid to talk about "sides" or is that a frame of reference that only one party to this discussion would like to simplify it into?

Far more than two viewpoints have been expressed in this thread, and trying to lump some of them into one "side" and some into another "side" and not have any left over ... well, that could be easy, for the mentally defective....

 

[Ed T]

Well, when Sky popped off it was ok to attack him as a reserve leo and say he lacked integrity and should not work another shift.

When Lance's integrity is challenged, people are being meanie heads.




You are right though, I am lumping.

I think the middle ground is held by people that have made I statements.

I would like to know the truth.
I feel that histories have been misrepresented or allowed to be misrepresented.
I think that the "investigators" have gone to far in pursueing family and posting personal information.

There are a number of those.

 

[roughedges]

I do not think you are suggesting that it is OK as long as the others started it are you?

No offense but you might have a problem with reading far too much into what other people write, or maybe simply with disregarding parts of what they say, if you really have to ask this question. I meant everything that I said, and exactly what I said, including the part where Teacher should have disregarded all the mud that was being thrown at him. That is hard to do sometimes, as we all know, and so I would at least say that Teacher's response was understandable even if not appropriate to this forum or this thread.

When Lance's integrity is challenged, people are being meanie heads.

No, when Lance's integrity is challenged, people are trying to change the subject and/or attack the messenger . Who are the ones doing that again? Most likely the same folk who come along and single out someone to insult until they reply in kind, thereby (once again) removing the focus from the topic at hand.

It'd be a brilliant strategy if we were having this out on the grade school playground. But we're not and the phrase "grasping at straws" comes to mind.

 

[Ed T]

More to that.

There was a court proceeding regarding Mick Strider and that was a proper way to arrive at the "truth". Those are a matter of record now.

They address marketing strategies.

I have met very few people that are truly evil. In this process, there is a tendency to paint with a broad brush.

I wish they (Strider Knives)would address the issue. I also believe they (Strider Knives) did do some exceptional things that are not related to the marketing. Those do speak to character. I can be dissappointed in their marketing, but support their decision to help a widow in a time of loss. (Or am I misinformed about that as well)

I know that some want this to be a single issue about a single topic. But when you are talking about people, that is very difficult to maintain.

 

[Ed T]

No offense but you might have a problem with reading far too much into what other people write, or maybe simply with disregarding parts of what they say, if you really have to ask this question. I meant everything that I said, and exactly what I said, including the part where Teacher should have disregarded all the mud that was being thrown at him. That is hard to do sometimes, as we all know, and so I would at least say that Teacher's response was understandable even if not appropriate to this forum or this thread.


No, when Lance's integrity is challenged, people are trying to change the subject and/or attack the messenger . Who are the ones doing that again? Most likely the same folk who come along and single out someone to insult until they reply in kind, thereby (once again) removing the focus from the topic at hand.

It'd be a brilliant strategy if we were having this out on the grade school playground. But we're not and the phrase "grasping at straws" comes to mind.

We are not too far appart. I agree it was understandable. I was pointing at it being contrary to the moral high ground.