Strider Knives, Game Over!

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wolfmann601 said:
Geeze Sky, I guess it's time to apologize. I did not know you served 9 years with the Nassau County Police Aux., wow. I was born and raised in Nassau and have close immediate family who retired from and are still members of the NCPD, what a Department!!

Wow, I wished I could have been an Aux. Policeman and worked with you, a guy who communicates with the dead and knows what they were thinking and knows that all 103,000 members of BFC are ashamed and embarassed to tell folks they are members here.

These uncanny abilities must have made you the most valued Aux. Cop on Long Island...............wow!!!

Kids read this but few speak Yiddish:

Gai Avek kolboynik petseleh!!! Strider toches-lecker
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No need to apologize Ed. I was in fact mocking him. Not for his service as an Aux. Policeman but for his knowing what two great men feel about this topic even though they are dead.

As for his position as a Policeman; I have not researched the NCPD in years ( I guess I could google them, but.........) but IIRC, is a department of about 8000-10,000 members who man 8 precincts and have every type of specialty unit there is from horseback to aviation, Patrol to Paramedics. The Aux. officers have Powers of arrest and are a valued resource. I did NOT differeniate Auxiliary and paid officers by using the term "Real", not me. I have the utmost respect for Cops, they perform a very difficult function with or without pay, period.

You know, throughout all these tangents, sidetracks, U-turns, speed traps, failure to yields and passings in no passing zones ( to aid and assist the Policeman types:)), the question still remains; Is Duane Dwyer a USMC Scout Sniper?

What a very simple question that's very easy to answer; YES or NO.....
 
wolfmann601 said:
What a very simple question that's very easy to answer; YES or NO.....
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You would hope it would be that simple.

Does anyone have a link to him stating he has a big kill count? That was tossed around to, but I don't remember ever seeing him declare, "I have killed people by the bunches."
 
Ed T said:
You would hope it would be that simple.

Does anyone have a link to him stating he has a big kill count? That was tossed around to, but I don't remember ever seeing him declare, "I have killed people by the bunches."
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It is that simple, but again you obfuscate. What difference does the answer to your question make, to a simple yes or no answer to Wolfmann's question? Duane doesn't have to have an impressive kill count, or any at all, to be a USMC sniper. Why don't you leave this alone, like you know you should. :confused: Now, go ahead and attack the messenger again. You're becoming tiresome.
 
HDCharlie said:
It is that simple, but again you obfuscate. What difference does the answer to your question make, to a simple yes or no answer to Wolfmann's question? Duane doesn't have to have an impressive kill count, or any at all, to be a USMC sniper. Why don't you leave this alone, like you know you should. :confused: Now, go ahead and attack the messenger again. You're becoming tiresome.
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What? I did no such thing. It has not happened yet. That is what I am pointing out.

My second question is about the claims. I do no trecall those claims being made. Do you have that information? Yes or no?

I have asaid what I believe, repeatedly. What do you believe?

I have said, third time now, I believe that SK misled, or allowed misinformation to continue. What is so difficult abaout that. I have agreed with "yes" piece.

What is your problem?
 
I am trying to make it as simple as simple, as simple, as easy as can be. My question does not require any acknowledgement about the "impressive kill count" comment, the list of training opportunities around the World, or any acknowledgement of any of the puffery that appears on Retail knife websites, sniper weapons/ accessories/optics sales and information websites, or any acknowledgement that he is or was a member of any Sniper related team, association, or society. It is just a simple yes or no question and that question is:

Was Duane Dwyer ever a USMC Scout Sniper? (Maybe just a plain ole, nothing special Scout Sniper)

If you Want to shut me up and see me cease posting here just answer the simple question above and I will STFU. I would accept anyone who is tight with the Strider Guys answer if Duane's coaches tell him not to answer:rolleyes:

YES or NO
 
It has become part of the claim. That is why I asked.

If it comes out that he completed the course, won't it move to the next piece of the allegationl that he misrepresented combat experience?
 
wolfmann601 said:
I am trying to make it as simple as simple, as simple, as easy as can be. My question does not require any acknowledgement about the "impressive kill count" comment, the list of training opportunities around the World, or any acknowledgement of any of the puffery that appears on Retail knife websites, sniper weapons/ accessories/optics sales and information websites, or any acknowledgement that he is or was a member of any Sniper related team, association, or society. It is just a simple yes or no question and that question is:

Was Duane Dwyer ever a USMC Scout Sniper? (Maybe just a plain ole, nothing special Scout Sniper)

If you Want to shut me up and see me cease posting here just answer the simple question above and I will STFU. I would accept anyone who is tight with the Strider Guys answer if Duane's coaches tell him not to answer:rolleyes:

YES or NO
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I do not even know them. I can not answer it.

Again, please read my post. Fourth time now. I believe the information was misleading, either intentionally, or by failing to reign in stories that have grown.
 
wolfmann601 said:
You know, throughout all these tangents, sidetracks, U-turns, speed traps, failure to yields and passings in no passing zones ( to aid and assist the Policeman types:)),

the question still remains; Is Duane Dwyer a USMC Scout Sniper?

What a very simple question that's very easy to answer; YES or NO.....
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Ed T said:
You would hope it would be that simple.

Does anyone have a link to him stating he has a big kill count? That was tossed around to, but I don't remember ever seeing him declare, "I have killed people by the bunches."
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I continie to be amased.

It is that simple Ed T. The question Wolfmann asked is aYES or NO question. Please explain to me how it could be any more simple than that. Either a person is something or they are not.

And just like HDCharlie said below... "big kill count" .. has nothing to do with the question.

HDCharlie said:
It is that simple, but again you obfuscate. What difference does the answer to your question make, to a simple yes or no answer to Wolfmann's question? Duane doesn't have to have an impressive kill count, or any at all, to be a USMC sniper. Why don't you leave this alone, like you know you should. :confused: Now, go ahead and attack the messenger again. You're becoming tiresome.
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Amen ......:thumbup:
 
EdT,

Go back to page one of this thread, click on the POWNetwork link, and you wil see the statements as to "impressive kill count." It was in print, in an article, for which there appears to be no correction or retraction. There are a couple of other sources there, too, but again, no correction or retraction.

Thise do not answer the basic question. If the service record posted is his and correct, the impressive kill count was done outside the pervue of the US Military establishment. People usually go to prison for that.

Gene
 
Different people care about different things. After all the statements of Mick's that have been proven to be lies, some people are satisfied (he's a liar, I get it already....) Other people aren't satisfied; they want to know if that statement that he was kicked out because of a back injury is true or not. That makes a big difference to some people.

I expect the same will be true with Duane. There are a lot of separate claims -- being a sniper, impressive kill count, training with every secret squirrel outfit in the world, etc. Some people may only care whether the sniper claim is true. Some others may care about one of the other claims and not be interested in whether he lied about being a sniper.

You can decide for yourself that you consider only one claim or only a few claims important and you consider the others trivial and not worth investigating, but you may find that others don't share your opinion.
 
Thanks, Gene.

I do need to exit and be productive in other areas. I hope I can do that this time, lol.

Too bad we can't have an ignore thread feature.

Hope you get the answers you are seeking.
 
Daryl Bolke is Strider's approved spokesman. He works very closely with them, defends them to a fault, and has made many statements that obvioulsy Duane and Mick are aware of his making.

When D. Bolke makes statements like this one that was made on 02-09-07 its as good as if Duane did it himself IMO when you consider his standing longterm relationship with Strider.

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"Many folks confuse Mick with Duane Dwyer, the co-owner of Strider knives. He is a confirmed former USMC Scout/Sniper (he has also been accused of being a fake and felon by the same crowd, I guess they always allow fakes to give speeches at S/S graduations). Duane is also a reserve Police Officer and serves on a SRT unit (we always give ex-felons badges). He also has experience outside of normal military service. Duane does far more shows and appearances than Mick. He is actually the one most have seen or spoken to at events, and he is very proud of his USMC background and loves to talk. The guy at the table drinking beer and claiming to be a marine Sniper is in fact Duane and not Mick for all the internet know it alls."

Now, as for Mick and his "Ranger" status. Let the Rangers worry about that. Its really not our cross to bear whether they accept him or not. Thats their concern and not part of this thread topic. Been there done that before in another thread guys.

STR
 
If these two knifemaking entrepreneurs are willing to go to this length to market their apparent fake experience and Special Ops expertise in combat knife design, I started to wonder something else about them and their methods.

They produce some pretty expensive, and good looking custom knives over at Strider Company that have Mick's or Duane's name stamped on the blade which suggests to me that they built that custom knife themselves.

Are their name signed or stamped customs suppose to have been manufactured by them personally with their own hands?


If so, has anyone actually ever seen either one of those guys actually grind or make a knife?...Just curious......
 
Ed my friend I am not asking you this question!!!:D:D:D (insert a laughing emoticon here also)

There are quite a few folks reading these posts who are considered "in the know" and I would think most would recognize that they are members of the Strider In-team"

It is to Duane of course that I pose this question. However, I would accept an answer from one of the In-team and even they should admit that this is an easy question.

Alot of the stuff like "Impressive kill count" and a laundry list of elite of the elite Sniper training has been claimed by others with Duane's silence as a form of corroboration of said claims. I only care about what Duane himself claims and I am certain that Duane did claim he was a USMC Scout Sniper.

Therefore, the simple, easy question again is: "Was Duane a USMC Scout Sniper?" How much easier can it get? I just cannot see any harm in his stating that he is. Matter of fact I would think that if Duane answered yes it would have a very positive benefit to the Litigation I hear so much about.

When the parties battle this in Court a few years from now and this 789,000 page thread (by then) is produced as evidence, a Lawyer can point to page 40-something, post 2000 and state to the Jury; "right here the Plaintiff states he ___________________a USMC Scout Sniper during his enlistment with the Corp and blah, blah, blah............

Call me stupid ( I bet right now 20 or so guys and 1 lady are saying "OK STUPID":D:D) but how does his answering this question hurt his case, UNLESS......................................
 
Here is a question that when the dust settles will probably mean alot:

Am I a Brasilian Portugese linguist? I graduated from DLI, but never served in a slot that required someone with that language.

If I went to DLI today for a language school, not as a member of the military, but was given one of the few slots available to folks outside of DOD could I list that class under my military education?
 
RWS said:
If these two knifemaking entrepreneurs are willing to go to this length to market their apparent fake experience and Special Ops expertise in combat knife design, I started to wonder something else about them and their methods.

They produce some pretty expensive, and good looking custom knives over at Strider Company that have Mick's or Duane's name stamped on the blade which suggests to me that they built that custom knife themselves.

Are their name signed or stamped customs suppose to have been manufactured by them personally with their own hands?


If so, has anyone actually ever seen either one of those guys actually grind or make a knife?...Just curious......
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WOW, the one thing that I thought nobody disagreed with was that there was nothing wrong with the quality of their knives. Do you really think that if someone else was making knives of that quality that they would continue to work in someone’s shadow or strike out on their own.
 
wolfmann601 said:
Therefore, the simple, easy question again is: "Was Duane a USMC Scout Sniper?" How much easier can it get? I just cannot see any harm in his stating that he is. Matter of fact I would think that if Duane answered yes it would have a very positive benefit to the Litigation I hear so much about.
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I am obliviously not Duane and not really even in the know. But its looking like Duane isn’t saying anything at the moment. About the best anyone can do right now is wait and see what SOCNET is going to put out on this.
 
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