Strider Knives, Game Over!

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LukeMacGillie said:
Here is a question that when the dust settles will probably mean alot:

Am I a Brasilian Portugese linguist? I graduated from DLI, but never served in a slot that required someone with that language.

If I went to DLI today for a language school, not as a member of the military, but was given one of the few slots available to folks outside of DOD could I list that class under my military education?
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If you went to and successfully completed the course why would you not claim it.
 
Horned Toad said:
If you went to and successfully completed the course why would you not claim it.
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And that is my prediction of how this is all going to end up.

1. DD was a Marine
2. DD was allowed to attend Marine Scout Sniper School due to his connections thru Strider Knives, his work as a Police Sniper and perhaps he was even still an IMA in the Marine Corps Reserve. This was a handshake deal done at the NCO level, with no official sanction by anyone with "Commanding" in their Signature block.
3. DD was employed as a Defensive Marksman(the non DOD Touchy Feely way to refer to Snipers) by a US PMC in the Balkans.

Number 1 and 3 are verifiable, its only Number 2 that is a SWAG. I have no insider information. I took 2 courses that DD was an AI in 4 years ago and didnt speak to him again till one of the trade shows here in DC last year.

DD and I are not bossum buds, drinking buddies or anything of the sort. But I do like Striders and own 4 of them, plus 2 Sets of Gunner Grips. Im sure someone will brand me a Striderette, but Im not going to loose sleep over this.
 
1. DD was a Marine
2. DD was allowed to attend Marine Scout Sniper School due to his connections thru Strider Knives, his work as a Police Sniper and perhaps he was even still an IMA in the Marine Corps Reserve. This was a handshake deal done at the NCO level, with no official sanction by anyone with "Commanding" in their Signature block
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Ok, this is a pretty good hypothesis. #3 is not an option for digital data technicians.
 
Yet more people who are not Duane talking about couldas. If he can hold off posting long enough maybe someday somebody will come up with a plausible story, and then all he has to do is log on and say, "Yup, what he said." Why should he bother trying to think up excuses for himself when so many are so eager to do it for him?
 
Bladeandbarrel said:
Ok, this is a pretty good hypothesis. #3 is not an option for digital data technicians.
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On number 3 I could call up the company that had the contract and verify, but it would really be overstepping my current position. There are other folks who can do this without fear of a reprimand. Im actually not eligible for re-hire by this same company due to attending a mandated by the client training class and not completing the "Service Remaining Requirement" after the course.

Contracting pre GWOT was totally a good old boys club. I have no doubt that DD was there and employed as a DDM.
 
LukeMacGillie said:
And that is my prediction of how this is all going to end up.

1. DD was a Marine
2. DD was allowed to attend Marine Scout Sniper School due to his connections thru Strider Knives, his work as a Police Sniper and perhaps he was even still an IMA in the Marine Corps Reserve. This was a handshake deal done at the NCO level, with no official sanction by anyone with "Commanding" in their Signature block.
3. DD was employed as a Defensive Marksman(the non DOD Touchy Feely way to refer to Snipers) by a US PMC in the Balkans.

Number 1 and 3 are verifiable, its only Number 2 that is a SWAG. I have no insider information. I took 2 courses that DD was an AI in 4 years ago and didnt speak to him again till one of the trade shows here in DC last year.
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Oh, ok. Let's examine this "hypothesis" and disassemble it.

1. What name did Duane serve under in the Marine Corps? Was it Thomas Duane Poland? If not, what were the dates of service and his MOS?
2. Yeah, right. NCOs took it upon themselves to allow a civilian to take a 10 week long course, as a handshake deal, and open the Corps up to massive liability, when S/S billets are already at a premium. Ok, so just for shits and giggles, when did this happen? Who was the NCO in charge of this? Where's the verifiable proof of this happening?
3. Dates & times, dates and times. When was he employed in the Balkans? By whom? Was this during the 80's or 90's? Because that would make him an employee of Dyncorp and the number of people who did that for them are pretty few and easy to verify. Where's the verifiable proof? Who were his supervisors, and can they vouch for him?

This sounds like another fascinating "yarn" to be told though.

On number 3 I could call up the company that had the contract and verify, but it would really be overstepping my current position. There are other folks who can do this without fear of a reprimand. Im actually not eligible for re-hire by this same company due to attending a mandated by the client training class and not completing the "Service Remaining Requirement" after the course.

Contracting pre GWOT was totally a good old boys club. I have no doubt that DD was there and employed as a DDM.
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See, right there is where you blow your credibility as being a neutral third party.

That "Good Old Boys Club" wasn't hurting for actual real deal operators back in the day, was it? Lots of guys hanging around who had the skills, retired snipers, SF dudes, ex Delta or SEALs or the like. If Dwyer is what you say, where's the proof & school confirmations? Why would a PMC hire a computer tech to do sniping? That's like, gasp, hiring a barred-from-reenlistment E1 with a broken back, who'd gone AWOL; why bother when you can have guys with actual skills, verifiable skills at that?
 
Horned Toad said:
WOW, the one thing that I thought nobody disagreed with was that there was nothing wrong with the quality of their knives. Do you really think that if someone else was making knives of that quality that they would continue to work in someone’s shadow or strike out on their own.
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I'm not questioning the quality of their knives at all. To be honest, I'm not qualified to judge quality when it comes to higher end knives. Most of the time, when knives get to the higher price points they all pretty much look(i.e., fit and finish), handle well and cut pretty much the same to me.

Although, at this point, I could argue that one of the PERCEIVED........and I really do mean perceived...... intangible quality characteristics of Strider knife quality that was believed to be built into their knives as a result of years of elite special forces military experience appears to now be absent from the manufacturing process, which really doesn't matter to me at all if a knifemaker is ex special ops.....however, I'm sure a few people out there bought their knives believing that this very elite military characteristic was part of the overall value of the Strider knife.

In light of their apparent propensity to make themselves look like something they are not, I'm questioning weather the Strider custom knives are in fact suppose to be made by the person whose name is on the blade (i.e., Mick or Duane), and if so, do they really make the custom knives they claim to have made....in other words, are their knifemaking skills also possibly made up.
 
Spark said:
Oh, ok. Let's examine this "hypothesis" and disassemble it.

1. What name did Duane serve under in the Marine Corps? Was it Thomas Duane Poland? If not, what were the dates of service and his MOS?
2. Yeah, right. NCOs took it upon themselves to allow a civilian to take a 10 week long course, as a handshake deal, and open the Corps up to massive liability, when S/S billets are already at a premium. Ok, so just for shits and giggles, when did this happen? Who was the NCO in charge of this? Where's the verifiable proof of this happening?
3. Dates & times, dates and times. When was he employed in the Balkans? By whom? Was this during the 80's or 90's? Because that would make him an employee of Dyncorp and the number of people who did that for them are pretty few and easy to verify. Where's the verifiable proof? Who were his supervisors, and can they vouch for him?

This sounds like another fascinating "yarn" to be told though.


See, right there is where you blow your credibility as being a neutral third party.

That "Good Old Boys Club" wasn't hurting for actual real deal operators back in the day, was it? Lots of guys hanging around who had the skills, retired snipers, SF dudes, ex Delta or SEALs or the like. If Dwyer is what you say, where's the proof & school confirmations? Why would a PMC hire a computer tech to do sniping? That's like, gasp, hiring a barred-from-reenlistment E1 with a broken back, who'd gone AWOL; why bother when you can have guys with actual skills, verifiable skills at that?
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Which is why Dyn got in trouble for hiring a guy who ran the bowling ally on base in Germany as a Helo Mech in the Balkans. Like I said it was all who you knew........
 
You are missing a pretty important piece of the puzzle there though: actually showing it happened. "Coulda" is not "did". And "Coulda" doesn't make someone a USMC Scout Sniper. Or a Force Recon Marine.

By all means though, please provide any proof about it, I'd love to see something that could be verified.
 
It's not the first time the question of how much of the work on their knives is outsourced CNC and how much they do themselves has come up, but this isn't really the thread for that, is it?
 
So much for my easy freaking question!!!!

So he was a Civilian USMC Scout Sniper?...............HUH????

Geeze, was he or was he not a USMC Scout Sniper while still a US Marine????
 
Cougar Allen said:
It's not the first time the question of how much of the work on their knives is outsourced CNC and how much they do themselves has come up, but this isn't really the thread for that, is it?
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I guess not.......It was a rhetorical question anyway.
 
At the end of the day REGARDLESS of reason, scenario, situation etc..

Even IF someone would have passed USMC SS Course as Civilian does NOT QUALIFY as a USMC Scout Sniper.

They would be able to use/say Civilian Graduate of USMC Sniper Course

In the same vein as a person from another Branch or Foreign Unit who passes BUDS cannot say SEAL.

But he can say he Graduated BUDS.

Or RE CON Marine who graduates Ranger
School can say "Ranger Qualified" BUT not a RANGER.


Next issue, what confirmed Kills ?

Confirmed by WHOM ?

From the back of a mail in coupon from a Wheaties Box ...


Combat Vet Still need proof of that.

DYN Corp. HAS been checked by SOCNET source and they say NO.
 
LukeMacGillie said:
Here is a question that when the dust settles will probably mean alot:

Am I a Brasilian Portugese linguist? I graduated from DLI, but never served in a slot that required someone with that language.

If I went to DLI today for a language school, not as a member of the military, but was given one of the few slots available to folks outside of DOD could I list that class under my military education?
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I can hit the bull's eye, am I a marksman or a scout/sniper?
 
LukeMacGillie said:
And that is my prediction of how this is all going to end up.

1. DD was a Marine
2. DD was allowed to attend Marine Scout Sniper School due to his connections thru Strider Knives, his work as a Police Sniper and perhaps he was even still an IMA in the Marine Corps Reserve. This was a handshake deal done at the NCO level, with no official sanction by anyone with "Commanding" in their Signature block.
3. DD was employed as a Defensive Marksman(the non DOD Touchy Feely way to refer to Snipers) by a US PMC in the Balkans.

Number 1 and 3 are verifiable, its only Number 2 that is a SWAG. I have no insider information. I took 2 courses that DD was an AI in 4 years ago and didnt speak to him again till one of the trade shows here in DC last year.

DD and I are not bossum buds, drinking buddies or anything of the sort. But I do like Striders and own 4 of them, plus 2 Sets of Gunner Grips. Im sure someone will brand me a Striderette, but Im not going to loose sleep over this.
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If Duane personally made these three claims they would carry some weight, and repercussions, if they turned out to be lies.
 
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