Strider Knives, Game Over!

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I knew a few Dyn-Corpers from the early 90's and they were pretty much real-deal. They did hire the occasional subject matter expert without prior combat experience, but pretty rarely. They did not hire digital data technicians as snipers. All were combat MOS, with or without combat experience.
 
LukeMacGillie said:
On number 3 I could call up the company that had the contract and verify, but it would really be overstepping my current position. There are other folks who can do this without fear of a reprimand. Im actually not eligible for re-hire by this same company due to attending a mandated by the client training class and not completing the "Service Remaining Requirement" after the course.

Contracting pre GWOT was totally a good old boys club. I have no doubt that DD was there and employed as a DDM.
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Do you mean to say #3 is verifiable but you haven't verified it yet?
 
Ira (wolfmann) & Teacher--

I re-read your insults (Toches-lecker.bla,bla) and Teachers stupid,insults.He's a second grade spelling teacher & Teacher needs spell check himself.Live in the real world,be a man.
I know Mick & Duane & the people around them for 4 years.Honest products,great service and ,i repeat,i don't care what their MOS was,they served their country.I am not interested in past lives, i judge people how they live their current lives and treat others and how they support our current
military.
Finally,a keyboard commando is brave behind his keyboard, but will never insult people (like Ira & Teacher have) to their face.
 
sky masterson said:
Ira (wolfmann) & Teacher--

I re-read your insults (Toches-lecker.bla,bla) and Teachers stupid,insults.He's a second grade spelling teacher & Teacher needs spell check himself.Live in the real world,be a man.
I know Mick & Duane & the people around them for 4 years.Honest products,great service and ,i repeat,i don't care what their MOS was,they served their country.I am not interested in past lives, i judge people how they live their current lives and treat others and how they support our current
military.
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Sheesh...

This reads like a character witness for a don at a Mafioso trial. :eek: :D
 
It is NOT about Strider knives, are you freaking thick? They make superb knives and if they just reported their military careers without the bullshit they would still be owners of a company that makes honest knives. Dishonest men make honest products all the time, that does not make it right. This entire situation is about an Owner of a Company that might have fluffed his accomplishments to be held in higher regard, said high regard possibly earning him a few extra bucks. If the guy puffed up his record all he needs to do is man up. If the record as reported on a slew of websites is true, he should just prove it and end this. This whole world is about making money. The purpose of a puffed combat history is to make money and the purpose of a lawsuit in this instance is to make money if he was in fact defamed, period. If he proves that he's a USMC Sniper with some combat the bunch of detractors would have the same egg on their face and face the same punishment as administered by the Court of Public Opinion. The only difference in the two scenarios is that one involves the payment of money damages, the other just serious damage in the eyes of their peers and 100,000 plus knifeknuts.

As for me calling you a Tushy licker with a little wee wee, you need to toughen up Officer, there are much worse names people could call you. IMHO, you acted the part and I called you would I felt was appropriatefor a family read forum.

As for DD, yup he served his Country, there's no doubt about it. But for the sake of argument; suppose that when you were an active Police officer you and another officer came upon a car crash. The driver was already out of the vehicle and the damage was minor. A few years later you learn in order to get a better job than you, your former partner reported that when you two arrived on the scene the car was fully involved in flames and the driver and her twin 1 year old babies were all trapped. Without thought to his personal safety this officer entered the car three times and rescued all three. He then single handedly performed CPR and all three survived. This would not bother you? And, if you ran into the guy today you would not have one negative feeling towards him and think of him as a Poser?
 
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sky masterson said:
Ira (wolfmann) & Teacher--

I re-read your insults (Toches-lecker.bla,bla) and Teachers stupid,insults.He's a second grade spelling teacher & Teacher needs spell check himself.Live in the real world,be a man.
I know Mick & Duane & the people around them for 4 years.Honest products,great service and ,i repeat,i don't care what their MOS was,they served their country.I am not interested in past lives, i judge people how they live their current lives and treat others and how they support our current
military.
Finally,a keyboard commando is brave behind his keyboard, but will never insult people (like Ira & Teacher have) to their face.
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From page one of this thread it has been all about Duane Dwyer and his claims to be a Marine Sniper, there is a huge difference between Marine Sniper and Marine + Sniper and that is straight out fraud, lies, Bullshit, and about one hundred plus other colorful words available in multiple languages, none of them being polite.

Now I have "Sky" calling me and others "Keyboard Commandos". Then "Sky" goes into the "Will Never Insult People To Their Face" line of weakest link playground gossip. This forum is not set up as threatening environment, is not the place for a cock measuring contests or to have someone typing up bullshit about, "You wouldn't say it to someones face" when they have absolutely no idea about that.


Now back to the question, the question that has been answered by Investigation, Obfuscatory Rhetoric, and Silence. That question was, Is Duane Dwyer a Marine Sniper or a Liar?

This question is now well beyond the point of "Maybe" and has become a simple "Yes", "Yes he is Liar" for multiple reasons that have been posted here throughout this thread. Not only is he a "Liar" but a "scumbag" for not just coming out with some kind of truthful and verifiable statement, which if he were the real deal he would be able to do, and if he was not a liar, would have done already, most likely years ago.








Civilian Fan Club Calls: Yes, Thats Correct, I'm The Real Deal!

Marine Calls: You Will Need To Talk To My Lawyer!

Green Crickets Chirping In Darkness,

Silence______________​
 
sky masterson said:
Ira (wolfmann) & Teacher--***SNIPPED


Finally,a keyboard commando is brave behind his keyboard, but will never insult people (like Ira & Teacher have) to their face.
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Are you kidding??? You are a trained Police officer, you said so in one of your posts. Why would I want to meet you face to face:eek::eek::eek:

You are a bully, especially in light of the fact that I am a walter Mitty type. I am old, very fat, very very short, balding and with an enlarged Prostate. The only battles I engage in these days is the fight to pee!!!

Please act like a trained Officer and not make those "I would not call you a tushy licker to your face, keyboard Commando" comments you tushy licker you.

OH, BY THE WAY, is DD a USMC Scout Sniper?????

Stay on task and act with the level of decorum expected of you based on your statement of being an award winning trained Police officer. Make the statement, act the part, period.
 
Bubbanumber1 said:


Civilian Fan Club Calls: Yes, Thats Correct, I'm The Real Deal!

Marine Calls: You Will Need To Talk To My Lawyer!

Green Crickets Chirping In Darkness,

Silence______________​
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Bubba,

Since I am the only civilian here who has reported calling him and receiving such an answer, I presume you are referring to me, when you say "Civilian Fan Club Calls: Yes, Thats Correct, I'm The Real Deal!". Let me state unequivocally that I am no fan of Strider Knives, nor of Mick Strider, nor of Duane Dwyer. If you are referring to me, please do not impute false information about me. Please do not refer to me as a "fan" of Duane Dwyer nor Mick Strider nor the knives nor the company. I am not.

Thank you.
 
Bladeandbarrel said:
I knew a few Dyn-Corpers from the early 90's and they were pretty much real-deal. They did hire the occasional subject matter expert without prior combat experience, but pretty rarely. They did not hire digital data technicians as snipers. All were combat MOS, with or without combat experience.
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it depends on what ya do for dyncorp, i have known 4 guys who worked for them, none has had any combat experience whatsoever (well one was in the gulf war but he didnt see any combat) 3 of them worked for (and one still does) them doing helicopter maintanence outside the CONUS, dyncorp does all sorts of stuff, one guy i know works for them training the iraq police and he hasnt ever even been in the service BUT a uncle is some sorta wig with them so there ya go, and no he wasnt a LEO prior to employment with them, he has been to some schools since he went to work for them though. IIRC he has an associates in crim jus.

i didnt know dyncorp has folks working doing aircraft maintanance on aircraft carriers, thery also have drivers, cooks, and everything else.

so imho working for them doesnt mean much in the way of specops stuff, now someone like triple canopy or blackwater, maybe so,
 
and again why all the AKA's?? its like they were in the french foreign legion not the USMC or the US army lol.

to be honest, i think it was all a buch of bullshit, 99.9% sure, on both of them, i still think they make a helluva knife, and all the BS wasnt even needed imho, but if it looks like a duck............

now, perhaps in the future i'll be proven wrong, i hope so, but if not shame on them, they should be ashamed.

i saw what combat did to my dad (WW2 88th Inf division forward observer) the short temper, sleeping for no more than an hour/2 at a time, drinking, he had some issues over it, and he never spoke of the bad things that happened until the last yr or so before he died, oh he would tell the story about finding booze hidden in a church and everyone getting wasted, stuff like that, never mentioned all the other stuff, so it hurts my feelings and to be honest pisses me off when posers lie about things to boost there self esteem, or whyever they do it, if ya wanna be a ranger/sniper/etc get in shape and join the army, they are looking for folks all the time.
 
Evolute said:
Bubba,

Since I am the only civilian here who has reported calling him and receiving such an answer, I presume you are referring to me, when you say "Civilian Fan Club Calls: Yes, Thats Correct, I'm The Real Deal!". Let me state unequivocally that I am no fan of Strider Knives, nor of Mick Strider, nor of Duane Dwyer. If you are referring to me, please do not impute false information about me. Please do not refer to me as a "fan" of Duane Dwyer nor Mick Strider nor the knives nor the company. I am not.

Thank you.
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Sir, Did you see me quote you? Was there one quotation mark wrapping the words you're referencing as the supposed quote? Was your name mentioned anywhere on that post? Do I or do I not use peoples names when I make a direct quote as I have done many times here? Do you somehow believe you are the only person in North America capable of completing a phone call to San Marcos California? There is no need to respond to this but you can use it as a future reference when you again get a bad case of presumption.
 
Bubba,

If you were not referring to me (note that such a possibility was implied by the "If" in my previous post), then we have no issue.

Cheers.
 
My guess here, and this for the record is speculation (A Possibility) based on the the current silence out of San Marcos California. Lies were told to both Kershaw and Buck Knives to get contracts, now some fancy lawyers are looking into the situation in depth on both sides because it involves real money and sales well beyond that of a small custom knife shop. It appears that because lies were told to get the contracts that there may very well be "Litigation" just as Duane Dwyer stated on the phone but it is not litigation to prove he is in fact a Marine Sniper but them getting sued for telling lies to get contracts aka FRAUD!

Now their "Striders" lawyers have told the team to STFU while they back peddle as fast as they can so they do not lose their asses in court for fraudulent business practices. This is pure speculation on my part but I will not be surprised at all if it was in the future to prove to be a fact. If you think about it, the last thing Kershaw or Buck Knives wants is some nasty public legal battle, this kind of thing is best handled behind closed doors but that still does not make Duane Dwyer a Marine Sniper even if all parties involved were to reach some kind of agreement (settle out of court) and it were never to be made public.
 
sky masterson said:
Ira (wolfmann) & Teacher--

I re-read your insults (Toches-lecker.bla,bla) and Teachers stupid,insults.He's a second grade spelling teacher & Teacher needs spell check himself.Live in the real world,be a man.
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They were questions. Questions that so far you have avoided answering.

sky masterson said:
I know Mick & Duane & the people around them for 4 years.Honest products,great service and ,i repeat,i don't care what their MOS was,they served their country.I am not interested in past lives, i judge people how they live their current lives and treat others and how they support our current
military.
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SKI products and customer service are not in question. They apparently both had military service, that is not in question. [although the names they served under has been / is presently in question.] MOS is not totally in question, although there seem to be some questions. How they live their lives now, treat others, and support our present military is not in question.

What is in question is embellishing, lying about, and "dressing up the report" of the past military service.
It seems that you say you do not care if that is what they have done.

Is this what you are saying ?

I have asked this several times and yet you still avoid the question and will not answer. Is that a hard question for you ?

If, as a LEO; you apprenhended a bank robber who had escaped from prison 5 years earlier and he was now, at present time; a pillar of the community.... would you just let him go ? That is a direct question to you "sky masterson".

No more BS or mud slinging... just an answer.

sky masterson said:
Finally,a keyboard commando is brave behind his keyboard, but will never insult people (like Ira & Teacher have) to their face.
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Now "Officer sky" .... I have no idea if this statement of yours is a question, threat, or challenge.
But I assure you, I am open to any equitable and neutral solution you feel the need to come up with.
 
Clovis said:
And your point?
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I could throw that back at you, your point?


This thread was about DD. Who was a Marine. If you have some earth shattering revelation about Mick, maybe you can ask Spark to reopen that thread. Believe it or not there may be folks on this board with some experience about the Rangers that didn’t come from a goarmy.com webpage.
 
Bubbanumber1 said:
My guess here, and this for the record is speculation (A Possibility) based on the the current silence out of San Marcos California. Lies were told to both Kershaw and Buck Knives to get contracts, now some fancy lawyers are looking into the situation in depth on both sides because it involves real money and sales well beyond that of a small custom knife shop. It appears that because lies were told to get the contracts that there may very well be "Litigation" just as Duane Dwyer stated on the phone but it is not litigation to prove he is in fact a Marine Sniper but them getting sued for telling lies to get contracts aka FRAUD!

Now their "Striders" lawyers have told the team to STFU while they back peddle as fast as they can so they do not lose their asses in court for fraudulent business practices. This is pure speculation on my part but I will not be surprised at all if it was in the future to prove to be a fact. If you think about it, the last thing Kershaw or Buck Knives wants is some nasty public legal battle, this kind of thing is best handled behind closed doors but that still does not make Duane Dwyer a Marine Sniper even if all parties involved were to reach some kind of agreement (settle out of court) and it were never to be made public.
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Oh boy was I confused....... I thought the reason they hired the lawyers was to help them hide the bodies of their competitors that they have hidden in the knife shop.
Bubbnumber1 you're and idiot....and that's your strong point!!
 
To some people that HAVE NOT earnestly followed this THREAD, it is YOU who needs to READ UP on it and follow along.

It is NOT anyone's responsibility here to CATCH you up if you are not FOLLOWING the ISSUES.

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Let's DISCLOSE the real MOTIVE and AGENDA OF "Luke MacGillie" or is it :

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Real Name: Red Fucas

http://www.historicaltrekking.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=341

here's another :

http://frontierfolk.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=12200&sid=745220f841206a4c1205b5ff8a2721ec


Occupation: Defense/Security Industry, Former Army, Former Museum Professional Interests: Full Auto Weapons, Supressors, Black Helo's

Here's another link:

http://www.cwreenactors.com/forum/showthread.php?t=588


So we can establish that Luke MacGillie has some hoobies like we all do.


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So it seems like YOUR a RE-INACTMENT specialist as well.

Apparantly trying to RE-INACT the STRIDER scenario as well, HOWEVER your TRYING to appear BENIGN.. YOUR NOT. In FACT rather TRANSPARENT in REALITY !

Let's EXAMINE the links and evidence of your relationships and friends you associate with to connect the dots for those HAVING difficulty following along.


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BELOW are listed Quotes from Luke MacGillie :

http://www.historicaltrekking.com/f...acGillie&sid=ca216b39e98832acc99177d63850b722


: On The Trail Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:11 pm Subject: Whats the deal with the Severed Heads???????


"So if its authentic it should be reenacted?

"I consider myself a fairly hardcore reenactor, but rubber heads, link sasauge "Intestines" for disembowling, and Catsup filled plastic baby's b ..."

Here's some more info on why he uses the name Luke MacGillie

http://forums.swordforum.com/showthread.php?t=201&page=4

"RED LUCAS or F. A. Lucas " another GUY who changes his name a lot....

Sept of Clan Lamont.

Actual name was MacGillieduh something or other. One of them names that is so long you need 2 nametapes to fit it on a military uniform. French form is Lucas

Its why I go by "Luke MacGillie" on most Reenactor boards.

My grandmother was a Thompson, of Rifle Bn Fame.

But Im commanded by a MacLean working for a Fraser at the moment LOL"

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OK we get that you like to Re-Enact things. So why should Strider's Legacy be any different....

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SIGNIFICANTLY, COINCIDENTIALLY and INTERESTINGLY it seems you just started POSTING (12 POSTS IN ALL) on THIS THREAD ONLY ...

LUKE MACGILLIE WRITES :
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"DD and I are not bossum buds, drinking buddies or anything of the sort. But I do like Striders and own 4 of them, plus 2 Sets of Gunner Grips. Im sure someone will brand me a Striderette, but Im not going to loose sleep over this."

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PLEASE what an FEEBLE ATTEMPT to INSULT the INTELLECT of these UNSUSPECTING and UNKNOWING people on this FORUM.

You and Pat Rogers are CLEARLY BUDS. You have an ONGOING RELATIONSHIP. Furthrermore, a small fraction of the LINKS are posted below for pubic's PERUSAL and PERVUE.

Pat Rogers CLEARLY SITS on Strider's Board of Directors and has a VESTED BUSINESS INTEREST PERIOD.

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Let's RE-ESTABLISH the CONNECTION with "PR" and STRIDER for those having difficulty.

http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies366.htm


FROM: M4 Carbine.net

02-09-2007, 07:45 AM
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Once more the errornet is full of conjecture, suppositions, myths and lies, jumping to non existent conclusions and with- like all legends, some truth thrown in.

FWIW, i have known Mick and Duane for a long time, and when they were making a few knives a month in the back of a storefront in Oceanside. From my very first meeting with them at Longboards, they were open about everything and held back nothing, leaving it to me to make decisions.

I have first hand knowledge about what Mick and Duane have done for the user community- the real users. They have donated a tremendous amount of time, money and product to ensure that real guys who have fallen have been honored appropriately and that guys going out to fight the war that most only have nocturnal emissions about when they do dress up role play in the privacy of their domicile.
As examples of the former, the Strider guys provided spectacularly done memorial knives/ shadow boxed for the Marines and Sailor of 1st Force killed in a helo crash in 1999. They wanted no mention of this then or now, but it is remembered by the families and the Company.
Or the extraordinarily well done plaque given to the men of my Brother's Company, Squad 1, whose members were all killed by islamofacists on a beautiful Tuesday morning five years ago. The men of the Squad have stated that this is the one gift that they received that stands out from all others.
Or the fact that Strider donates knives to the Sniper School Graduates as well as selected Rangers. Funny how neither the Marine Corps or Rangers- two groups of very tough hombres -have any problems, but do nothing neverbe's can make criticisms. I guess maybe you would have to be recruited by the CIA at age 5 to really understand the why's and wherefore's of that.
Yup, Mick made horrible mistakes. He has admitted that and moved on. Duane is a reserve cop and SRT member and cotinues to add community service to his list of accomplishments.
Grant has been asking Strider to allow him to carry their knive for years. Duane called me up a few months ago and asked me if i would recommend Grant. I did, and that is apparently happening.
So, are you going to stop buying from G&R? Stop posting here?

The disinformation cowpath means that everyone has opinions. Often these opinions mean that people shoot from the lip rather then make informed decisions.
The erronet has been described where a place where people who have nothing to say, say it anyway.
Sooooo true.
I have many acquaintences and fewer friends. Mick and Duane are friends.
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Pat Sends
Never Forget Those who died
Never forgive those who killed them

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Find it here:
http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies366.htm

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For the record you are UNDENIABLY LINKED to them DIRECTLY and the EVIDENCE is right here...

ESTABLISHING and Making the NEXXUS between Luke/PR/STRIDER....

BELOW are links showing the RELATIONSHIP, MUTUAL INTERESTS etc...

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?p=36924&highlight=strider#post36924

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?p=67833#post67833


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Location: NOVA
Posts: 799

Roger Grant, As a matter of fact, i have a Sully rifle and some Stags and M&P's. The rest are Colt uppers/ lowers; LMT uppers and lowers; Noveske uppers and lowers; Larue upper/ noveske lower and so on.
I didn't make any parts changes here, but putting a good upper on a good lower is something even i can do.

If not, I give Luke a call...
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From: M4 CARBINE

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Originally Posted by Pat_Rogers
If not, I give Luke a call...

That's my claim to fame, Luke; Armorer to the Stars!__________________
Romeo Foxtrot, Shall We Dance!

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Member Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: NOVA
Posts: 799

Does this mean i have to give you a raise??
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Pat Sends
Never Forget Those who died
Never forgive those who killed them

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NOT to MENTION you BOTH are LIVING in NOVA, VA.

TA DA !

YOU CLEARLY HAVE a RELATIONSHIP and VESTED INTEREST here NICE TRY.

It's NOT NICE to LIE, MISLEAD, OBFUSCATE or PREVARICATE to people is it LUKE (RED) or ?


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Luke MacGillie writes :


"And that is my prediction of how this is all going to end up."


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PREDICTION ? WHAT a JOKE and CROCK... YOU already KNOW the story and are sending it out as a CONDUIT and TRYING to SPIN it here.

MOST poeple here on BF do not know the ALL the details/intracacies, IDENTIFIERS and how this works. I do as do others and you know that.

BOTTOM LINE, It STILL MISSES the STANDARD of a LEGITIMATE VETTING and YOU ALL KNOW it.....

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Luke MacGillie writes:

1. DD was a Marine

NO one has EVER disputed that. And served HONORABLY and did a good job as well.

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Luke MacGillie writes:

2. DD was allowed to attend Marine Scout Sniper School due to his connections thru Strider Knives, his work as a Police Sniper and perhaps he was even still an IMA in the Marine Corps Reserve. This was a handshake deal done at the NCO level, with no official sanction by anyone with "Commanding" in their Signature block.

It's still Missing the STANDARD for LEGITIMATE VETTING (which you know) and still DOES NOT give right to use USMC Scout Sniper (and you know that).

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Luke MacGillie writes:

3. DD was employed as a Defensive Marksman(the non DOD Touchy Feely way to refer to Snipers) by a US PMC in the Balkans.

Number 1 and 3 are verifiable, its only Number 2 that is a SWAG. I have no insider information. I took 2 courses that DD was an AI in 4 years ago and didnt speak to him again till one of the trade shows here in DC last year.

Other than Pat Rogers VETTING him there because PR did TEACH on a contract (NOT offensive or Desiganted Marksman either FTR).

DYN CORP says NO to all names he uses which has been verified through SOCNET sources. So OTHER than PR VETTING him good LUCK....


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Luke MacGillie writes:

DD and I are not bossum buds, drinking buddies or anything of the sort. But I do like Striders and own 4 of them, plus 2 Sets of Gunner Grips. Im sure someone will brand me a Striderette, but Im not going to loose sleep over this.

SURE we believe you LUKE/RED /?

May not be a STRIDERETTE (PER YOUR DEFINITION) and I'm sure you will nopt proclaim that to your last breath BUTin reality you are connected at the HIP to PR. And he has a VESTED INTEREST in Strider...

TA DA !



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Here's a pic of LUKE :

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/LukeMacgillie.jpg


Nice Hat !

NEXT !

For those having difficulty following you need to FOCUS, READ it and COMPREHEND it. It is all here and VERY clear it TRULY is.
It is written here to save the time later and have a permanent record of it as it pertains to salient and relevant connections/nexxuses for later use as this washes out.
 
Bubbanumber1 said:
My guess here, and this for the record is speculation (A Possibility) based on the the current silence out of San Marcos California. Lies were told to both Kershaw and Buck Knives to get contracts, now some fancy lawyers are looking into the situation in depth on both sides because it involves real money and sales well beyond that of a small custom knife shop. It appears that because lies were told to get the contracts that there may very well be "Litigation" just as Duane Dwyer stated on the phone but it is not litigation to prove he is in fact a Marine Sniper but them getting sued for telling lies to get contracts aka FRAUD!

Now their "Striders" lawyers have told the team to STFU while they back peddle as fast as they can so they do not lose their asses in court for fraudulent business practices. This is pure speculation on my part but I will not be surprised at all if it was in the future to prove to be a fact. If you think about it, the last thing Kershaw or Buck Knives wants is some nasty public legal battle, this kind of thing is best handled behind closed doors but that still does not make Duane Dwyer a Marine Sniper even if all parties involved were to reach some kind of agreement (settle out of court) and it were never to be made public.
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Bubba lets not speculate on what Kershaw or Buck may think, do or say in any of this or start speculating about court and cases that are only pure imagination at this point. I don't think its fair to them to drag them into this in anyway. If they wanted to contribute they would do so. Both have forums here and can speak for themselves. To my knowledge no one has any information to lend credibility to your speculation above and I'd prefer it not be brought up again.

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