Bad Survive! Deserves A Permanent Post In The Hall Of Shame

You’ve suggested numerous times they should keep doing what they’re doing, for various reasons. It not only trivializes people who have been victimized by their questionable business practices, it also strongly suggests you’re ok with what they’re doing.

You’re here ridiculing people for publicizing this company’s and its owners’ bad behaviors and horrible track record for delivering on goods that have been paid for by their own accounting, for the purpose of preventing others from being victimized by that bad behavior. Again, strongly suggests you’re ok with what they’re doing and have been doing for at least the past 9 years.

So, if you’re not defending them, then you’re just here playing games trying to spin people up, and/or you’re totally full of crap.

That's not true. I asked the question why shouldn't they just move forward if there were no hope for redemption by making good on past orders anyway. There's a difference. I've never said they were justified in doing so. I asked what's their incentive. And the answer I got was "because honor". YOU consistently try to put words in people's mouths and assign incorrect motives to them because you don't like their point of view. It seems to be a common practice in this thread. Anyone that doesn't 100% agree with your point of view is automatically dishonest, lacks integrity, has no honor... blah blah blah.
 
No you’re just indifferent to how they have cheated others. You’re just willing to go along with shady business practices as if it doesn’t matter. And you’re trying to convince people who don’t want to encourage liars and thieves that they are somehow in the wrong.
Your entire argument is garbage.

It's true I'm indifferent but I've not "gone along" with anything. And I have no issue with the statement of the facts as they are. But I do find the constant crying and moaning by people that have no skin in the game hilarious. Sorry that upsets you.
 
I think the problem is more that they aren't selling knives: they're selling hope of a knife.

If that were the case... no one would get their knives.

This thread is a warning and I am an example of one who didn't buy a S!K due to this exact thread. I love the style, materials, functionality, and promised warranty... I was ready to pull the trigger on one in the secondary market and then found this thread in my research. A company who can't keep their promise to produce a knife that's been paid for certainly won't warranty the knife if it fails. There are plenty of companies that DO everything that S!K claims they will do eventually, someday, maybe in a different steel... Anyway, I appreciated the warning.

Fair enough. You have the right to make your own choice.
 
It's true I'm indifferent but I've not "gone along" with anything. And I have no issue with the statement of the facts as they are. But I do find the constant crying and moaning by people that have no skin in the game hilarious. Sorry that upsets you.

It doesn’t upset me. It tells me a little something about you.
We don’t agree on this. That’s probably never going to change. This back and forth is pointless and it’s not personal.
 
False. You’re are willing to continue doing business with know crooks. That’s a fact and your posts confirm it. That does say something about you.

False... I did business with them once. Had issues... but eventually got my order. I do however enjoy their products and use them daily. But the lion share of SK! knives I own I've gotten on the secondary market. You're making assumptions.
 
Hey, remember back on Friday when it was:

Don’t worry… I’ll lose interest here shortly.

And you guys will still be here next year.

And then a bunch of pages later, now it's this:

I feel like at this point it's just back-at-ya... so it's getting boring. I'll probably drift off to something else that interests me. I certainly can't keep running on this hampster wheel for 4 years like some.

I know this is y'all's little private space for hating on SK! and agreeing with each other and patting yourselves on the back for it. So I do apologize for kicking your little hornet's nest.

Sooooo...you've shown yourself to be dishonorable, so time to mosey on out, I'm guessing? The condescending "I can barely be bothered to keep posting" attempt at looking bored is played out.
 
That's not true. I asked the question why shouldn't they just move forward if there were no hope for redemption by making good on past orders anyway. There's a difference. I've never said they were justified in doing so. I asked what's their incentive. And the answer I got was "because honor". YOU consistently try to put words in people's mouths and assign incorrect motives to them because you don't like their point of view. It seems to be a common practice in this thread. Anyone that doesn't 100% agree with your point of view is automatically dishonest, lacks integrity, has no honor... blah blah blah.
You're only here to troll. You have absolutely stated that Survive should just ignore the outstanding orders and continue to to do business as they have so far.

We've seen this game before, so please carry on.
 
You’re making assumptions.

Nope... it's exactly what makes me question it. The childish high school piling on that occurs here. It just might push some folks to supporting SK! because of the example set. The answer to bad behavior is rarely more bad behavior.
 
Nope... it's exactly what makes me question it. The childish high school piling on that occurs here. It just might push some folks to supporting SK! because of the example set. The answer to bad behavior is rarely more bad behavior.
Keep tilting at windmills.

To recap, you suggested that Survive should ignore outstanding orders (fraud).

You now suggest that people are going to forgive Survive and give them money because people here take issue with Survive's Ponzi scheme.

Carry on.
 
That's not true. I asked the question why shouldn't they just move forward if there were no hope for redemption by making good on past orders anyway. There's a difference. I've never said they were justified in doing so. I asked what's their incentive. And the answer I got was "because honor". YOU consistently try to put words in people's mouths and assign incorrect motives to them because you don't like their point of view. It seems to be a common practice in this thread. Anyone that doesn't 100% agree with your point of view is automatically dishonest, lacks integrity, has no honor... blah blah blah.
WRONG. Man you’re getting this backpedaling thing down to an art form.

I don’t care what your opinion is. Disagree with the purpose of this thread all you want, but support it with valid arguments. You haven’t come close to doing that. You’re the one crapping on everybody YOU don’t agree with. And now YOU’RE the one putting words in peoples’ mouths.

Before I leave this pointless conversation for good, let me just add that besides S?K, I won’t be doing any business with you, either. Have a nice life.
 
Nope... it's exactly what makes me question it. The childish high school piling on that occurs here. It just might push some folks to supporting SK! because of the example set. The answer to bad behavior is rarely more bad behavior.

Burying your head in the sand isn’t the answer either. It’s true that some people are easily influenced. Most of us grow out of it. The piling on comment is lame. You and I are just talking back and forth. Lets not be dramatic.
 
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