Bad Survive! Deserves A Permanent Post In The Hall Of Shame

Yes there were several sites selling their knives and Survive had links to them at one time.
I am glad that someone found the refund is a fulfilled order in the DB video comments.
The whole thing stinks as some people are getting their knives from recent orders while those in 2015 ,16, 2020 have not for the 5.1.
I can tell you this they used the sheath excuse on me in 2016 for a 7/7 order I had and for years after those comments they had not even started shipping them out. I even said send me the knife then and I will get my own sheath. The people who had 2nds and recent orders got theirs but it took 6 years for the 7/7 to finally get closed out.

Now I know why they always issued refunds so they could say completed order. The 2016 order for the 5.1 have not been completed yet but you see small ticks in refunds and thus a small uptick in completed orders. They refunded my 5.1 order and I didn't tell them to issue the refund. I simply pointed out all the lies they fed me over a period of 2 years.
I feel that the level of corruption is very complex and warrants a Magnacut Pair of Handcuffs but they might be put on hold due to the chemistry of the kydex holsters.

At the end of it all I fear that 9 out 10 people don't get a real knife and if they got a refund they subtracted 20% on vaporware. I don't believe a thing they say. The ones saying they did get a knife are the ones ordering a 2nd or a physical ready sale and the others are waiting. I wonder what happened to that man that helped get the 3.5 and 6 out. I do hear now that not all of them got their 6 yet.

Yes here is your refund so it is a completed order and then cancel your old order and send in a new one and we will get it done faster and wham we just issued some refunds minus 20% and let the process start all over as we show our progress.

10k orders at $300 a piece is $300,000 loan and invest it over that 4 year period of time in the stock market when DT was in office and you made $300k in returns then add 60K on top for restock fees and that is just one model.
If they had 10 models over that 4 year time then 3.6 million dollars on vaporware. It is likely more due to compounding interest and reinvesting profits. This is just a theory of mine.
 
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The all seeing Guy, lol
 
In the spirit of this debate bringing up people buying products like Nike, Apple, Underarmor, Toshiba, Samsung, et el, is a bit of a deflection and "butwhataboutisim". On that same note however it's still very accurate. You may genuinely try to avoid evil companies but I'm willing to bet companies you do buy from, just like the rest of us, are terrible. But this is about Survive!
Ok, for the third time, Infi-Del brought that crap up. I addressed it thoroughly if you read everything.
I know most companies suck, but I make an effort to avoid them if it's possible. Knife purchases are 100% discussed at length so you can know which ones you don't want to deal with. It's just lame hyperbole that sympathizers and fanboys use to justify supporting a crooked brand. It may make sense in your head, but you're the outlier. Defending their dishonesty makes you every bit a part of the problem.
 
Ok, for the third time, Infi-Del brought that crap up. I addressed it thoroughly if you read everything.
Yes I'm aware he did. I apologise for not making it more clear and possibly insinuating it was you.
I know most companies suck, but I make an effort to avoid them if it's possible. Knife purchases are 100% discussed at length so you can know which ones you don't want to deal with. It's just lame hyperbole that sympathizers and fanboys use to justify supporting a crooked brand. It may make sense in your head, but you're the outlier. Defending their dishonesty makes you every bit a part of the problem.

I applaud your efforts to avoid shitty companies. Seriously. For me those companies have been Robinson Armament and M+M off the top of my head. I saw a number of self-righteous people upset when others were still buying from M+M. How dare they support crooks and shysters. I don't lose sleepover people buying from companies I don't like. With a little digging we'll find we all use products from one shitty company or another. Hell Apple had to install suicide nets on their buildings, talk about a bad workplace.

Since this is a knife forum it makes sense why companies like Survive! take the spotlight and not Apple or Nike.
 
Yes I'm aware he did. I apologise for not making it more clear and possibly insinuating it was you.


I applaud your efforts to avoid shitty companies. Seriously. For me those companies have been Robinson Armament and M+M off the top of my head. I saw a number of self-righteous people upset when others were still buying from M+M. How dare they support crooks and shysters. I don't lose sleepover people buying from companies I don't like. With a little digging we'll find we all use products from one shitty company or another. Hell Apple had to install suicide nets on their buildings, talk about a bad workplace.

Since this is a knife forum it makes sense why companies like Survive! take the spotlight and not Apple or Nike.
Next excuse from Survive; can't finish the run till suicide nets are installed. Loosing too many staff.
 
Fuck Survive. I got a new Carothers and it shipped two weeks later.
I will say it can be a little intimidating to newcomers to obtain some of their models, but I'm much happier with my Carothers knives than I was with my GSO-6.

Both are made well, but Carothers actually delivers knives on time and stands behind their work. If I'd had an issue with my GSO, I bet I never would have gotten it fixed or replaced.
 
I will say it can be a little intimidating to newcomers to obtain some of their models, but I'm much happier with my Carothers knives than I was with my GSO-6.

Both are made well, but Carothers actually delivers knives on time and stands behind their work. If I'd had an issue with my GSO, I bet I never would have gotten it fixed or replaced.
So you got it and had no issues?
 
So you got it and had no issues?
I posted my experience many, many pages ago, but I did get my knife (very late), and I had no issues with the knife itself. I did have issues communicating with Survive themselves, though, and the experience overall was very poor.

Also, the one feature distinguishing Survive from most other fixed blade makers (the Delta heat treat protocol) is no longer offered by the company because... idk, it made their jobs harder?
 
I will say it can be a little intimidating to newcomers to obtain some of their models, but I'm much happier with my Carothers knives than I was with my GSO-6.
True. Depending on if it is a new and/or a hot model, the Friday sales can be tough. It took me a couple tries to get an HDFK that way. I have had 6 CPKs through my hands (still own 4). Four of them were Friday sales (2x Veggie knives, HDFK, & a FK2), one was a pre-order ($250 D3v Kephart! Delivered before the estimated date), and an OG FK bought used).

So even though the Friday sales are a bit tough, I'd say that since some people are waiting 6 years on a knife from survive, chances are much better with a CPK. I think I only had to try a couple times to get that HDFK, so maybe a month or two. That is nothing if we are talking survive wait times! lol

Also, the one feature distinguishing Survive from most other fixed blade makers (the Delta heat treat protocol) is no longer offered by the company because... idk, it made their jobs harder?
I love CPK HT, in particular their D3V, but I have also been extremely happy with the OG FK in their less but still tweaked 3v. Survive! dropping D3V (without notice to people who paid for it), is a major blemish in my book. D3V is great stuff for a survival type hard use fixed blade. There is no good reason for survive to drop it.

I just did a pre-order a few days back. We'll see what happens.
Welcome and good luck with your order. My advice is to cancel it immediately and buy from non-conartist thieves out of principal alone, but if you insist on supporting such people, have a quick trigger on requesting a refund when they don't deliver.

And since you are new here, a bit of forum advice. Don't give this troll the time of day:

What did you order?
 
Craytab brings up a great point about refunds. If you used a credit card to order your knife you should give the company a call and ask them:

1. about their policy regarding refunding items that were purchased on the CC when the item is not delivered in a reasonable time; and
2. let them know you purchased from a company which you found out after the fact has a dubious history fulfilling orders and ask them to note it to your file.

I'm about half way through the amount of time I'm willing to wait for some knives to ship and if not I'll get it refunded.
 
Craytab brings up a great point about refunds. If you used a credit card to order your knife you should give the company a call and ask them:

1. about their policy regarding refunding items that were purchased on the CC when the item is not delivered in a reasonable time; and
2. let them know you purchased from a company which you found out after the fact has a dubious history fulfilling orders and ask them to note it to your file.

I'm about half way through the amount of time I'm willing to wait for some knives to ship and if not I'll get it refunded.
Or just avoid all the bullshit and order from a company that, in the very least, isn't a well known and documented con-artist run scamming ponzi scheme promoted by ballwashing internet shills, like you.

I don't know, seems simple and vastly more ethical if integrity is a concern....
 
With a little digging we'll find we all use products from one shitty company or another. Hell Apple had to install suicide nets on their buildings, talk about a bad workplace.

Since this is a knife forum it makes sense why companies like Survive! take the spotlight and not Apple or Nike.
The biggest difference is that there are numerous other choices for knives. In some of the previous examples, you have very limited choices for phones and computers.
 
The biggest difference is that there are numerous other choices for knives. In some of the previous examples, you have very limited choices for phones and computers.
This would make a good debate on ethics. Essentially this statement is suggesting ethics and morals are variable and based not what's right and wrong but a supply and demand. I have limited choices for a phone (arguably a want and not a need) so my moral obligation to avoid companies with bad or harmful businesses is less important.
 
This would make a good debate on ethics. Essentially this statement is suggesting ethics and morals are variable and based not what's right and wrong but a supply and demand. I have limited choices for a phone (arguably a want and not a need) so my moral obligation to avoid companies with bad or harmful businesses is less important.
Will you please stfu! Take your BS somewhere else, troll.
 
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