How dare you. He clearly meant 2020 AR (Anno Raptus).I checked something on their website and saw this: "With this new system we are planning to have all preorders fulfilled by the end of 2020".
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EDC-2
From Survives own Instagram post: "These should be available in a couple of months. They'll be done and ready to ship when they are made available. We should have pricing shortly. We just need to nail down a few things like sheath cost and handle machining times."
Over two years later, I had to threaten to sue for fraud to get my refund and that was back mid-summer.
Just curious, anyone seen a EDC-2 in the wild?
I hope I meet Guy late at night in a dark alley; so, I can congratulate him on his impeccable quality standards.
From Survives own Instagram post: "These should be available in a couple of months. They'll be done and ready to ship when they are made available. We should have pricing shortly. We just need to nail down a few things like sheath cost and handle machining times."
Over two years later, I had to threaten to sue for fraud to get my refund and that was back mid-summer.
Just curious, anyone seen a EDC-2 in the wild?
I hope I meet Guy late at night in a dark alley; so, I can congratulate him on his impeccable quality standards.
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This cracks me up. All the years these people have been in business, and they still don’t know how much sheaths cost, or how long it takes to machine handles, or that they should have all these things nailed down before production ever starts. Of course it’s entirely likely that production hasn’t actually started yet (or ever will). I can’t believe anybody actually still gives these people their money.EDC-2
From Survives own Instagram post: "These should be available in a couple of months. They'll be done and ready to ship when they are made available. We should have pricing shortly. We just need to nail down a few things like sheath cost and handle machining times."
Over two years later, I had to threaten to sue for fraud to get my refund and that was back mid-summer.
Just curious, anyone seen a EDC-2 in the wild?
I hope I meet Guy late at night in a dark alley; so, I can congratulate him on his impeccable quality standards.
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ncrockclimb
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I remember in 2021 when Guy and Shane said they were going to "fight" with customers that wanted a refund because all outstanding orders would be shipped by the end of the year. 18 months later, there are still A LOT of outstanding orders, some from 2015.
So after placing my order on Sept 12 2022, the 90 day mark came and went. After abundant complaining, calling, emailing, and texting.. I ended up in contact with Guy a few times. He promised and promised I’d have it by Christmas.
That didn’t happen.
I contacted them one last time and said if it wasn’t in my hands by Dec 30th, I’d come at PayPal who would quickly and easily refund the money.
Sure enough Dec 30th 2022 the GSO 5.1 showed up.
It IS a very nice knife, however I don’t have something like a Carothers Performance Knife to compare it to, or other top tier knives.
On the one hand, it’s a nice knife and was delivered 2 weeks longer than the anticipated date, albeit with hassle on my end and complaining. However on the other hand, I feel bad that some people still haven’t gotten orders from the past SEVERAL YEARS.
Do these knives hold up as well as people like DBK say they do? Or on principle is it worth selling and getting a CPK?
Any thoughts gents?
(Btw how do you get one of those anyway, they seem very hard to come by)
Thanks!
That didn’t happen.
I contacted them one last time and said if it wasn’t in my hands by Dec 30th, I’d come at PayPal who would quickly and easily refund the money.
Sure enough Dec 30th 2022 the GSO 5.1 showed up.
It IS a very nice knife, however I don’t have something like a Carothers Performance Knife to compare it to, or other top tier knives.
On the one hand, it’s a nice knife and was delivered 2 weeks longer than the anticipated date, albeit with hassle on my end and complaining. However on the other hand, I feel bad that some people still haven’t gotten orders from the past SEVERAL YEARS.
Do these knives hold up as well as people like DBK say they do? Or on principle is it worth selling and getting a CPK?
Any thoughts gents?
(Btw how do you get one of those anyway, they seem very hard to come by)
Thanks!
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I can't speak to the former question - I never owned any long enough to put through the ringer. I'm sure they are just fine.
That said, as a matter of principle, I moved them along so to answer you second question, I'd sell it and look into getting a CPK. Honest folks that make a hell of a knife - plus they use the Delta protocol on their 3V, which Survive!, for silly reasons, opted to discontinue.
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Everyone in this forum says to get a CPK ignoring the fact they're damn near impossible to actually get without paying $100 over MSRP for one second hand. Would love one but sadly will probably never own one since I just don't have the energy to wait until they're running the model of knife I want and then to wait for exactly the right time on a Friday to probably be out commented by a bot.
Ambush one on the For Sale forum here is how I've gotten mine. And I paid less than MSRP. But you can also get a Survive on the second hand market as well.
I don't care for the CPK sales model either, though I understand why they do it. Basically a copy of the way Busse used to do it (and maybe still does?). It builds a "club" atmosphere which is good for word of mouth popularity and mystique. But I am not a joiner so it doesn't work for me.
Speaking of Survive news: My friend who has a TSK on order still has not received his knife. They didn't reply to his half dozen emails so he called, and Guy essentially told him it would be done when it was done. I'd feel bad for my friend but I told him he was being conned before he ordered the thing and he did it anyway.
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Have you visited the Carothers threads under ‘Hosted Makers’? You will find a super group of people who love knives, and many are willing to help out a new CPK person. Knives are listed for trade, sale, and info about sales and plans for future designs will be there. If you know what knife you want, you can post what you are wanting to find.
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I definitely won't give up, but they are very much a challenge that I don't see getting much easier for sure!
The CPK forum is filled with very generous and helpful members, ask for someone to proxy for you.
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That's a nice idea might give it a try at some point, thanks for the suggestion