Bad Survive! Deserves A Permanent Post In The Hall Of Shame

Quiet said:
Exactly what I've been saying this entire time. Guy and Ellie are a couple of bums who don't make anything. Even their few diehard defenders haven't shown their faces in here for awhile. I think they got the hint. We aren't talking hypotheticals, we aren't making guesses, this isn't defensible by "Well, you don't knoooowwww...." Yes we do. Many of us have had the real picture on these scumbags for quite a long time at this point. I'm just going to say it: if you give these oxygen thieves your money, you are dumb. End of.
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Someone just posted a video of Creely knives fixing some warped small magnacut knives.

They are uncannily similar to the ones in SuK's picture of heat treated knives in a previous post.
 
It really is a slow moving train wreck!!!! Hard to believe they are still in”business” and there are still those willing to give the “benefit of the doubt”. Makes me “almost” want to create a faecesbook account just to watch…….ALMOST ;)
 
hello, quick question, what is survive listed under on facebook? i was wanting to check out their bs on there but i’m not very internet savvy & wasn’t able find them by searching on it own
 
mrfields said:
hello, quick question, what is survive listed under on facebook? i was wanting to check out their bs on there but i’m not very internet savvy & wasn’t able find them by searching on it own
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www.facebook.com

Survive Knives

Survive Knives, Meridian, Idaho. 8,431 likes · 512 talking about this. SURVIVE! is a craft manufacturing company that specializes in tough use, quality knives.
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thanks, worked like a charm. tjat s***’s funny. can’t believe the ones on there still kissing their a**’s tho
 
Hard Knocks said:
@theknifejunky
Good morning sir. Take this in the way it's intended from me and understand that I'm not taking a shot at you, and that what I'm writing below is said evenly and without heat;
but I am going to take a minute to stick up for a forum buddy:

I remember when that went down, and it didn't seem so crazy then. That gentleman was led to believe he'd be made whole, and the way he got treated from the company was full on BS. I just don't think he deserves any flack for attempting to let the company follow through with their warranty process, I mean what else could he do? Keep the defective blade and call it good enough? That should tell anyone reading through here how messed up this company is, that provided you ever do receive your knife, if you have an issue you'd be out of your mind to send it back because you were extremely lucky to have ever received the promised knife in the first place. No, the blame here rests wholly on Survive. Three years to fulfill a frigging warranty claim, and then not even with the same model FFS.

Again, not sending heat at you, just letting you know how that went down, and I hope you're having a good day.

Anyone else thinking about taking a risk by ordering from these guys.....JUST. DON'T. DO IT.
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Hey guys, I'm the guy who sent the 4.7 back and waited 3 years for a replacement. I would like to add that along that entire journey of the warranty process I contacted them 4-5 times and my replacement was always a few weeks away. The 4.7 I sent in was seriously messed up, I significantly bent the edge in many places just processing a single deer. I probably cut against bone several times (as I always do when deboning meat) but I have done this many times with other knives and never seen edge deformation as a result! Much to contrary my other deer knives are a Benchmade fixed blade (D2 steel), Dozier (D2 steel) and Falkniven F1 and H1 (VG-10), and Moras (Carbon and Stainless) have never needed more than a stropping after doing a full deer. So when I sent the knife in and they said they wanted to keep it for "testing" I assumed they found it had a serious heat treat issue and gladly accepted the replacement they said was a month or so out. Of course I was an idiot to believe that but honestly I did not want the 4.7 back as it had some serious heat treat issues.

S!K is meme level ridiculous now. I traded the replacement almost immediately. I just couldn't trust them anymore and didn't want to run into an issue again and wait another 3 years for a fix...
I traded for a Carothers Performance Knives Kephart in Delta 3V and couldn't be happier! It performs as 3V is supposed to!

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Pomock said:
I have the refund request in with PayPal, luckily I got suspicious when there were no actual updates and Web searches led me to this forum.

Carothers look great and I even avoided a kick in the credit card because instead of preorders they say out of stock.

Avoided may be to strong... deferred a kick in the credit card...
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They didn't even respond to PayPal so full refund and apparently I overpaid (PayPal issue I think) so a little more than I expected.

Between this forum, thanks to you, and BBB the info is out there and surely custom will dry up!
 
Macchina:
Glad you ended up with a quality knife out of the ordeal.
CPK is a great group of folks with phenomenal knives and they respond to questions and are easily reached. Exact opposite of the other.
 
April 2023 update. Now that we know that Survive! counts refunded orders as "Complete", we can't tell how much progress they actually make on older orders. They haven't posted an update in since January 2023. They say that their move delayed their production, but I'll let the numbers speak for them. 3 months!!!

They also decided to remove overall progress from the Production schedule. They also did not include any new orders in 2023. I have no idea why they would want to do that. :rolleyes:

2015: 0.0% in 3 months
2016: 0.4% in 3 months
2017: 0.0% in 3 months
2018: Complete
2019: 2.8% in 3 months
2020: 1.7% in 3 months
2021: 0.4% in 3 months
2022: 1.1% in 3 months

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tokerblue said:
April 2023 update. Now that we know that Survive! counts refunded orders as "Complete", we can't tell how much progress they actually make on older orders. They haven't posted an update in since January 2023. They say that their move delayed their production, but I'll let the numbers speak for them. 3 months!!!

They also decided to remove overall progress from the Production schedule. They also did not include any new orders in 2023. I have no idea why they would want to do that. :rolleyes:

2015: 0.0% in 3 months
2016: 0.4% in 3 months
2017: 0.0% in 3 months
2018: Complete
2019: 2.8% in 3 months
2020: 1.7% in 3 months
2021: 0.4% in 3 months
2022: 1.1% in 3 months

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I am really glad you keep posting this.
 
tokerblue said:
April 2023 update. Now that we know that Survive! counts refunded orders as "Complete", we can't tell how much progress they actually make on older orders. They haven't posted an update in since January 2023. They say that their move delayed their production, but I'll let the numbers speak for them. 3 months!!!

They also decided to remove overall progress from the Production schedule. They also did not include any new orders in 2023. I have no idea why they would want to do that. :rolleyes:

2015: 0.0% in 3 months
2016: 0.4% in 3 months
2017: 0.0% in 3 months
2018: Complete
2019: 2.8% in 3 months
2020: 1.7% in 3 months
2021: 0.4% in 3 months
2022: 1.1% in 3 months

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But wait… this can’t be right. I thought the orders for 2015 were almost done!
 
It would be highly interesting to climb inside the inner psychological workings of this operation. What makes them think that putting the customer off (time and time again) will eventually extricate themselves from their problems with filling orders? Do they feel that their numerous justifications will white-wash all of these stains and blemishes on their now voluminous but tarnished record witnessed here on BF? The paper trail and testimony of scores of displeased knife lovers isn't just going to vanish in thin air unless the world comes to a halt. And what about the massive competition waiting in the wings?

Why not just come clean, refund the money or fill the orders in prompt fashion? Or hire someone to actually answer the huge numbers of emails that have remained unanswered! Being oblivious to your customer base can't bode well for their feeble attempt to regain footing. Even if you did hire a host of folk to reboot this company you'd be trekking up hill all the way. Even Atlas himself would have trouble mustering the power to buttress Survive Knives.
 
I can't help but wonder if they keep changing their locations based on loan incentives, as if they are kicking the can of their demise down the road by chasing free money. It's probably not likely, but it sounds like something they'd do.
 
Stubai said:
It would be highly interesting to climb inside the inner psychological workings of this operation. What makes them think that putting the customer off (time and time again) will eventually extricate themselves from their problems with filling orders? Do they feel that their numerous justifications will white-wash all of these stains and blemishes on their now voluminous but tarnished record witnessed here on BF? The paper trail and testimony of scores of displeased knife lovers isn't just going to vanish in thin air unless the world comes to a halt. And what about the massive competition waiting in the wings?

Why not just come clean, refund the money or fill the orders in prompt fashion? Or hire someone to actually answer the huge numbers of emails that have remained unanswered! Being oblivious to your customer base can't bode well for their feeble attempt to regain footing. Even if you did hire a host of folk to reboot this company you'd be trekking up hill all the way. Even Atlas himself would have trouble mustering the power to buttress Survive Knives.
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Once you’re a couple layers deep in a Ponzi scheme the only things you can do are either disappear and cut your losses or keep on going and hope for another set of blocks for the pyramid. I believe the Survive team has the end goal of turning their business into an actual sustainable respectable operation so they’re doing the latter but instead of buckling down and putting in the work they are chasing get-rich-quick pie-in-the-sky nonsense (buy a hotel! Move! Buy a machine shop! Move again!) and lying/fibbing/manipulating customers to put off paying the piper.

EngrSorenson said:
I can't help but wonder if they keep changing their locations based on loan incentives, as if they are kicking the can of their demise down the road by chasing free money. It's probably not likely, but it sounds like something they'd do.
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I suspect it has less to do with loan incentives than things like not paying leases or mortgages.
 
Guy just loves his numbers and charts. He probably spends most of his day trying to be a trader with all that borrowed money. He probably really hates knives now.
 
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