Bad Survive! Deserves A Permanent Post In The Hall Of Shame

ncrockclimb said:
Entering a fraudulent tracking number draws out the process / delays the refund. S!K is all about the interest free working capital and keeping the sales $s for as long as possible.
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Right, but did they think the customer would just accept that? Paypal just refunded on appeal anyway. Seems really dumb. Drawing more attention to their bad behavior.

It also shows the shill ass naysayers that survive really has no interesting in doing the right thing. Confirmed fake tracking numbers. Kind of hard to say, "they're honest people who just got behind, give them a chance!"
 
craytab said:
Right, but did they think the customer would just accept that? Paypal just refunded on appeal anyway. Seems really dumb. Drawing more attention to their bad behavior.

It also shows the shill ass naysayers that survive really has no interesting in doing the right thing. Confirmed fake tracking numbers. Kind of hard to say, "they're honest people who just got behind, give them a chance!"
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100% agree that this is especially bad for them over the long-term. I’m just guessing, but I think it is indicative of how strapped they are for capital.
 
craytab said:
True. And how short-term their mindset is, I guess.
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ncrockclimb said:
100% agree that this is especially bad for them over the long-term. I’m just guessing, but I think it is indicative of how strapped they are for capital.
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There is another video (refer someone's previous comment: more knives fewer videos!) that supports this statement.
Along with the usual lies about getting caught up in a couple of months etc..

Ooh and of course some aspersions are cast... this time its predatory lenders - reckon someone asked to repay a loan, pay interest or some other mean unfair thing?
 
Pomock said:
There is another video (refer someone's previous comment: more knives fewer videos!) that supports this statement.
Along with the usual lies about getting caught up in a couple of months etc..

Ooh and of course some aspersions are cast... this time its predatory lenders - reckon someone asked to repay a loan, pay interest or some other mean unfair thing?
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If the banks are on their case it won't be long now.
 
DaisyDog said:
Survive just crossed a line with me. I don’t post too much and never had a bad word to say on any manufacturer on any of my 100+ collection but Survive really are a joke.

I was new to the brand as a customer around 6 months ago and ordered a V-7 and a 5.1 as their website stated “may take up to 3 months”. I was fine with a 3 month timeline and good to go. I then saw various posts like this forum and on FB that made me worry about the timelines. Luckily I had paid via PayPal so wasn’t concerned too much.
Fast forward to the last month and I have acquired all the models I wanted from the secondary market and wanted to get refunds. No respond emails, dead phone calls so I requested a refund through PayPal. They didn’t respond to it so after about 30 days PayPal gave me a full refund. Fine.

Whilst this was going on, I got an email from Survive outline a batch of 5.1 seconds that would ship out within 10 days. Long story short, 2 months later, no knife has arrived, no email responses or anything so I raised another PayPal refund and decided I won’t ever support that brand again.

In the dispute, Survive responded in the resolution centre stating that the knife had shipped with a tracking number of “000000” via USPS. I complete fabrication that from my view was input to delay the refunding of my money or avoid refunding me all together. I am lost for words with the conduct of this business and hope they just close their doors now. They have crossed a line with their conduct to a point of blatant fraud now.

All the best on the law suit and I feel so sorry for all the people who have put money on blades 6+ years ago that no one will likely ever see.
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Thanks for posting.

Was your 5.1 a normal order, and while you were waiting for it they then posted a sale of seconds, before offering you any of the seconds?
 
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Pomock said:
There is another video (refer someone's previous comment: more knives fewer videos!) that supports this statement.
Along with the usual lies about getting caught up in a couple of months etc..

Ooh and of course some aspersions are cast... this time its predatory lenders - reckon someone asked to repay a loan, pay interest or some other mean unfair thing?
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OMFG! I just listened to a little bit of that. Guy is so full of shit and clueless. He has had a decade to get this right, and he has not done it. Every time he talks he makes another batch of excuses that sound eerily like the ones he made before, and predictions that never ever seem to come true.
 
You know how anyone with a brain could figure out S!K is full of bullshit? Not once has a missed deadline been their fault. Not once. Places in business as long as S!K usually have the occasional muck-up, and there’s an apology, amends are made… whatever, stuff happens.

Not S!K though, they’re supposedly the finest business that’s ever graced the face of the earth.
 
Just requested refund for my GSO 5.1 magnacut order (order nr around 18xxx). Orderer december 2022 and seen people with order nr around 16000 still waiting and other much earlier of course. Emailed them around x-mas for a status update and was given a clueless answer how things are so difficult to predict etc. Should be super easy with knifes that are made of few components and given how long they been in business. They hinted that the backlog was going to be cleared before years end or beginning of 2024. Latest videos suggests otherwise.

Have made preliminary surveys to my bank about help with refund. They told me that with the evidence at hand they could probably be quite generous with the terms eventhough it has gone such a long time since my order. Interesting to see if said company will do the right thing or if I will need to activite the help from my bank.
 
Boy, they are just swinging and missing everywhere.
Great Job, S!K, you're really blowing it!
 
So I am just going to throw this into the cosmos. They are clearly shady as hell, have been that way for years and despite all the people willing to give them a pass or actively run interference here for them (in the past when they had their own forum here) they are still so blatantly shady, how long is it before they have an IRS issue ? I say that not as an allegation of unpaired taxes or tax fraud but simply acknowledging that so much of their demonstrated behaviour goes hand in glove with taxation issues. I mean “Al Capone” right….
 
The IRS is a funny question. How do they juggle taxes paid on a "Pre-paid" knife then give a refund the next year or 2 or 3?
 
ncrockclimb said:
They have blocked A LOT of people. Their private group is even worse; Ellie is really active on that page, and if you dare to question her or point out how crazy some of her BS is, the ban you. What is wild is how many disgruntled customers find their way to that group, make a few posts complaining about S!K, then get banned. There are a lot of pissed off customers out there...
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Sounds like Ellie is still up to the same tactics she took with me when they got booted from here. Such a shame their scheme continues on, if shills would stop promoting them, I think they'd have went out of business by now.
 
Getting caught up on this thread; what in tardnation. It's actually impressive Guy and Ellie managed to keep this scam going this long. Wow. Just wow. How long have they been at this scheme? 6 to 10 years? They can't get their crap together in almost a decade? Ok.
 
shinyedges said:
Getting caught up on this thread; what in tardnation. It's actually impressive Guy and Ellie managed to keep this scam going this long. Wow. Just wow. How long have they been at this scheme? 6 to 10 years? They can't get their crap together in almost a decade? Ok.
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100% agree with you.
 
braillediver said:
The IRS is a funny question. How do they juggle taxes paid on a "Pre-paid" knife then give a refund the next year or 2 or 3?
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I have often wondered whether the blanks, semi finished knives and stock are how they remain solvent. I.e. they value their stock as an asset even though it is owed to customers.

I'm still stuck on "predatory lending", what are the preorders, "predatory borowing"?!
 
shinyedges said:
Getting caught up on this thread; what in tardnation. It's actually impressive Guy and Ellie managed to keep this scam going this long. Wow. Just wow. How long have they been at this scheme? 6 to 10 years? They can't get their crap together in almost a decade? Ok.
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You'd think, but look at that douchenozzle on this very thread that's giddy about getting another.

Always another fool in line...
 
It’s mind boggling.
I just hear the same things over and over again.
Cannot wait until the doors at S!K close for good.
 
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