"Tenacious" model

I like the design and I am actually partial to linerlocks on small blades. If keeping Spyderco churning other models from USA and Japan means competing positively in the bottom end, I vote for it. Good job on the design.
 
I too like the design & Chinese manufacture does not put me off !
When will they be available?
regards,Rick.
 
I like the look of the Tenacious model, but I'm left-handed, so I'm not in the market for any liner locks. If it was a lock back, or mid-lock-different story. Sal, I respect you tremendously for your commitment to quality and for your continuing communication with the Spyderfans. Please accept our best wishes for a merry Christmas, Happy Haunnakh(sp) and Happy New Year from our house to your house and the House of Spyderco.
 
I think it looks nice but to be honest, I will probably not buy one for myself. It looks promising to buy as gifts for my non knife family members and co workers. I like to see made in the USA on the products that I buy and carry. I own a few Seki SOGs and spydercos but I do not own any Chinese made knives. Somethings are harder to tell. The phone I am typing this on is not clearly marked as to were it originated. I understand that engaging the communists is the quickest way to bring them down. My hope for this is that the money generated in the low end creates more USA models in Golden.
 
Thanks for the post and info Sal. Appreciate that.
I only buy US made knives, production or custom well, almost. I love the Caly3.
 
If the knife is still synonymous with Spyderco quality then I'm in. And for the people downing on Chinese manufactured stuff, wasn't Japan on that list at one point in time?
 
I have a few kershaws made in china which quality is up to standers with the rest of their 30$ knives and I can't see that it would be different with Spyderco. They will be able to reach a wider market. I live in RSA and here many knife people don't buy RSA products because we don't manufacture and have that luxury. People buy what is quality from a respected company because they know they will get their moneys worth no matter where it is made. At least thats how it works in our general consumers here.
 
I personally don't care where it is made as long as it is a quality product. That is a cool looking knife, Sal. Looking forward to checking one out. And the price is right, too.

Maurice
 
From business point of view, what can one do, but from a spyderco fan point of view, I dont like it at all, the fact its made in China.
 
To be honest, from the day the Byrd line was first announced I assumed that part of its reason for being was to act as a mixture of feasibility study and on the job training to develop a Chinese factory capable of building to Spyderco standards. So, if the Tenacious turns out to be a knife with the quality we have come to expect of anything carrying Spyderco's name, then the fact that it's made in China will be irrelevant to me. But, if it is the beginning of a "third tier" - better than Byrd but not quite up to Spyderco's normal standards - then I will be somewhat sad, and frankly, the choice of steel makes me inclined to think that is the case.

Dan
 
I understand the decision and it doesn't change my view of the company.

I'd really like to see some of the people who are critical of Spyderco's financial decision start and grow a company themselves and show us all how it's supposed to be done right. I'm not a Spyderco fanboy, I'm not loyal to them. They earn my money.
 
I think it looks dope personally. If the big chains pick this one up, I think Spyderco will be raking it in, which will be good for everyone. I plan on snagging one.
 
mark greenman said:
I think it looks dope personally. If the big chains pick this one up, I think Spyderco will be raking it in, which will be good for everyone. I plan on snagging one.
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If it's like a Byrd, or even close to the Seki City stuff, it could dominate in its price range. You find folding knives in a Big 5 or Sports Authority or Target or even Fry's, it's cheapo stuff, no name or Winchester or Smith and Wesson branded, junky knockoffs for 20$-45$. I mean, outside of the specialty shops, I haven't seen good folders in a store besides the Buck 110s and the odd duck like the Wal-Mart Native.

I mean, some people just prefer cheap beater knives for work, or they don't know about or can comfortably afford the better stuff, and a reliable Chinese beater could do very well with those sorts.

Something that is inexpensive and dependable would do rather well, I think.

I think this move works fine with the company's philosophy. Spyderco is not a way of life, or for making gee-whiz super knives for the blade-nerd who knows and loves knives and crap, or whatever. It's a company that makes good knives for people who use them, for whatever reason. In a way, I think one good, Chinese made folder that a hundred thousand eventually buy, is of more worth than a 2000 piece sprint run of a fan-favorite design with high tech materials.

Hell, I'm just rambling. I think you made a reasonable move, Mr. Glesser. You maintain your standards and all for the company, and I think the knives will still be good regardless of where they're made. I don't exactly see ya as just suddenly shopping out work to the lowest bidder now that you're having Chinese manufacturing.
 
I'm out, but there are many that are in. Same guys who buy the Wal Mart "RCA" television or the Home Depot "John Deere" tractor and the Toys R Us "Lionel" trainset. People who want the brand but do not pay/cannot afford to.
 
To me this thread speaks primarily to first principles of Spyderco. It seems that the goal is to produce high numbers of quality knives and put them into the hands of everyman (evidenced by striving to stay competitive in the wallyworld market).

The goal is not to have the "Spyderco" brand synonymous with "USA made" (not implying it ever has been).

The goal is not to focus all energies on producing fewer very fine knives for the upper middle to high class enthusiast, but instead to force out the international competition by producing higher quantities at a lower margin.

That's how it appears to me; I'm no market analyst or expert. I'm human and I have flaws.
The move to manufacturing a US-designed product in China aligns Spyderco with their role in the knife industry. Are they now more or less like CRK or BRKT or other US-based knife manufacturers? Were they ever more like those other companies? Does it matter? What does it mean?
 
Blade length - 3-3/8" ( 86mm ) P, PS S
Blade thickness - .125 ( 3mm )
Overall length - 7-3/4" ( 197mm )
Weight - 4 oz ( 115gms)
Skeletonized full stainless liners

sal
 
OK, here's another question. Any chance there will ever be a left hand version? Alternatively, any chance a similar design with a lock back is on the drawing board?
 
Take pride in your work.

I will respect anyone who takes pride in their work. I recently left my company (the largest software company in the world) because I couldn't take pride in my work.

Spyderco works hard to always create the best product they can. I respect that. If it raises the quality of a vendor in China, so be it. Because they can then take pride in their work.

Pride is a powerful thing. If we can have pride, why can't the Chinese? If the Chinese can have pride, why can't we?

There aren't sides, there are only people.
 
It's a no brainer. Why shouldn't Sal go after the non-affi market. It's probably the best thing that could happen to a non-knut knife user. If he buys the Tenacious, the average knife user will wind up with a decent knife, with decent steel that has a decent heat treat. It'll be better than 90% of the stuff that's out there in that price range. A small percentage will notice the difference and will be repeat customers and recommend them to others. With some additional designs Spyderco could carve out a nice chunk of that market.

What's the worst that could happen? Somebody that won't spend more than 20 dollars winds up with a solid knife?
 
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