Verpus77 or Bryan Busto 310A Dalene Way, Honolulu HI

the most i have ever paid for usps priortity shipping with insurance was about $17.00. without ins i would have probably saved a whopping $4.00 or so.

there is no good reason not to purchase ins no matter what a buyer says. if a buyer demands a different shipping method, i would consider it, i suppose.

but i don't provide shipping options in my sales/trade threads. i only use priority with ins.

ive used those envelopes in the past, but only for boxed items. i prefer either a bubble envelope, but typically use a box. i also make sure to include the recipients info inside the package.

i sell, the responsibility is mine until the package is delivered. i may not always like it, since i also have to trust the buyer if they say the package didn't arrive or arrived damaged. but that's why i purchase ins. always.

verpus is wrong. his behavior during this deal is not how we treat each other on bfc.
 
Esav, absolutely, and thanks.

Alex, thank you too. Bob and Mori, thanks guys - you're both spot on.

Having recently been on both sides of the coin, this subject is a little touchy for me. In case #1, I purchased two old NIB Spyderco FRN's, my favorites - the seller also had a well used Ontario Jet Pilots knife that I had no interest in. He offered it to me on the cheap, then free, and shipped all three in a plain Manilla envelope - you guessed it; the knife I didn't want arrived and the others didn't. He, after a 'rules education' refunded my money and I later basically gave the JPK away so I wouldn't have to look at it any longer...

In case #2, the buyer wanted a signed copy of my book for a friend in Russia. The sent book showed delivery, but he didn't get it. After two weeks, he asked for another copy, signed 'To Igor, from your Randall knife collecting friends in the United States' - being that he was going to fly the book to Germany for the hand off, and being that the signing was pretty specific, I had no problems sending him another copy...

That said, I ship high-end knives or books almost daily and have for years - it's my job as the seller to make sure it gets there safely, or to make it right...end of story IMO. :thumbup:
 
Melvin-Purvis said:
Esav, absolutely, and thanks.

Alex, thank you too. Bob and Mori, thanks guys - you're both spot on.

Having recently been on both sides of the coin, this subject is a little touchy for me. In case #1, I purchased two old NIB Spyderco FRN's, my favorites - the seller also had a well used Ontario Jet Pilots knife that I had no interest in. He offered it to me on the cheap, then free, and shipped all three in a plain Manilla envelope - you guessed it; the knife I didn't want arrived and the others didn't. He, after a 'rules education' refunded my money and I later basically gave the JPK away so I wouldn't have to look at it any longer...

In case #2, the buyer wanted a signed copy of my book for a friend in Russia. The sent book showed delivery, but he didn't get it. After two weeks, he asked for another copy, signed 'To Igor, from your Randall knife collecting friends in the United States' - being that he was going to fly the book to Germany for the hand off, and being that the signing was pretty specific, I had no problems sending him another copy...

That said, I ship high-end knives or books almost daily and have for years - it's my job as the seller to make sure it gets there safely, or to make it right...end of story IMO. :thumbup:
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Yep i agree:thumbup:
 
verpus77 said:
First of all I want to say that I am very sorry that the knife was lost. Unfortunately the loss of the knife is not my fault. I do not feel that I was irresponsible in packing and shipping the BOSS Street in a Flat Rate Envelope. This packaging is rated up to 4 lbs. if shipped internationally, and higher domestically. What does a BOSS Street weigh, 10 oz.? Being generous, a total of a pound at most with the packing material. I have shipped MANY knives in the same packaging and have not had a knife lost, or the packaging severely damaged in transit. I take care in my packing, and make sure the knife won’t move around when shipped. It’s not like I tried to cram a bare-bladed Battle Mistress in the envelope and send it on its way. The blade was secured in cardboard, wrapped in layers of packing paper, and taped shut with packing peanuts surrounding it.
In my sales thread I offered Priority Mail shipping ONLY, and nothing more. Any extra coverage or security was not advertised. And at the point of sale, extra coverage or security was not requested, and therefore, not applied when shipped. I have offered to refund half of the purchase price, and meet you halfway. The knife no longer exists, so the only thing left is the money. It is unreasonable to expect me to refund you the full purchase price, or to send you an entirely new knife. There will always be a level of risk when shipping, and receiving, an item. I’m not trying to rip you off here…..
On the other side of the coin, Ivan51, how do I know that you aren’t the one trying to rip me off? You make a public spectacle of this, and expect to peer pressure me into giving you your money back (or get another knife)? In your first contact to me, when the package arrived, you claim that there was a “little hole” in the envelope, and no knife.....

"hey i just got home and got your package and there is a little hole on the side but no busse! my wife got it when it was delivered by the mail and called me saying there felt like there was no knife in it. man did you insure it?"


.....Then you send me this picture:

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......I don’t see a “little hole,” I see the entire side of the envelope cut open. Whats up with that? Who’s to say you didn’t cut the package, take the knife, and are now claiming that there was nothing in the envelope but packing peanuts? I’m not out to make you look like the bad guy, just like you’re not out to make me look like the bad guy. You are being unreasonable. It is what it is. I hereby withdraw my offer to refund half of the purchase price, and I will no longer discuss this issue……
Verpus77
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If you are going to be in the knife business then you will have to learn that you are responsible for insuring the package (we self insure under $100) where it is not automatically insured by the carrier for an amount that covers the cost of the knives. Nobody is going to sue you for $200 but they will blacken your name until you have no business. I do not think you are dishonest, I just think you do not understand that what you have done is wrong. Any businessman with experiance will tell you the same, so will lawyers.

in over 45 years I have had one unresolved dispute, the customer requested that the package be left on his front porch, the carrier did so and when the customer got home there was no package, his attitude offended me and I refused to replace the knife. I was wrong, I should have replaced the knife and written him off as a customer. You have made a mistake and can correct it by sending that man his knife. That is the only way you can correct the $1,000s of bad feelings you have brought on your self.

You now know what you should do, be better than I was so many years ago and correct it now.
 
A. G. Russell said:
If you are going to be in the knife business then you will have to learn that you are responsible for insuring the package (we self insure under $100) where it is not automatically insured by the carrier for an amount that covers the cost of the knives. Nobody is going to sue you for $200 but they will blacken your name until you have no business. I do not think you are dishonest, I just think you do not understand that what you have done is wrong. Any businessman with experiance will tell you the same, so will lawyers.

in over 45 years I have had one unresolved dispute, the customer requested that the package be left on his front porch, the carrier did so and when the customer got home there was no package, his attitude offended me and I refused to replace the knife. I was wrong, I should have replaced the knife and written him off as a customer. You have made a mistake and can correct it by sending that man his knife. That is the only way you can correct the $1,000s of bad feelings you have brought on your self.

You now know what you should do, be better than I was so many years ago and correct it now.
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Good post. :thumbup:
 
Using a priority mail envelope to mail anything that is not perfectly flat is both foolish and risking loss/damage. I am not saying I never did it; I am saying I was foolish when I did.
Verpus #77 owes the guy a refund or a knife. He also needs to change his shipping practices.
all da best,
rats...
 
Derpus77 is on the no-deal list for me. These guys should have an X next to their name or something. The guy doesn't insure his own knife then bones the customer for it.

BS
 
Ivan - This one will be up and down the front page for quite some time unless you get your money or your knife. Many members here will be bumping it to keep it on page 1 so everyone can see how Verpus behaves. Are you still proceeding with your mail fraud and police department options?

Edit: Oops, sorry I was thinking of the guy who is ripping pittsteele off in a different thread. pittsteele is dealing with the police and postal inspectors. I got the situations confused. Way too much of this nonsense going on. Ivan we will keep this thread going. Almost 4000 views so far.
 
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Basic business law 101 says he owes you what you paid, plus he can be held liable for additional damages depending on market prices and other factors:

§ 2-713. Buyer's Damages for Non-delivery or Repudiation.

(1) Subject to Section 2-723, if the seller wrongfully fails to deliver or repudiates or the buyer rightfully rejects or justifiably revokes acceptance:

(a) the measure of damages in the case of wrongful failure to deliver by the seller or rightful rejection or justifiable revocation of acceptance by the buyer is the difference between the market price at the time for tender under the contract and the contract price together with any incidental or consequential damages under Section 2-715, but less expenses saved in consequence of the seller's breach; and

(b) the measure of damages for repudiation by the seller is the difference between the market price at the expiration of a commercially reasonable time after the buyer learned of the repudiation, but no later than the time stated in paragraph (a), and the contract price together with any incidental or consequential damages provided in this Article (Section 2--715), less expenses saved in consequence of the seller's breach.

(2) Market price is to be determined as of the place for tender or, in cases of rejection after arrival or revocation of acceptance, as of the place of arrival.

Source:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/2/article2.htm#s2-713

Bottom Line: Seller did not perform on the contract. Buyer did perform by paying. Seller breached contract. All transactions follow contract law. I'm not a lawyer, but if I was I would've taken the case for free. I'm utterly disappointed and disgusted with Verpus.
 
Brennanscott said:
Derpus77 is on the no-deal list for me. These guys should have an X next to their name or something. The guy doesn't insure his own knife then bones the customer for it.

BS
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He's on the ignore list for me. It's obvious by now that he's not going to make right, and even if he does, it's obvious what kind of person he is. His refusal to return money after the item was lost due to his shoddy packaging and failure to shell out the $3.00 for insurance, is stealing no matter which way you want to slice it. Stealing is lying, and I have a thing about lying. Add the arrogant, "I'm right, you're wrong, I'm taking your ball and going home," attitude and you get someone who, as far as I'm concerned, has no redeeming values.
 
Wish I knew Verpus's paypal email so I know to blacklist if he/she/it shows up under different user names or other websites where he might do business. Of course if it gets posted or was posted, he'll get his inbox flooded I'm sure.
 
He may not care today what becomes of this but his bad reputation will show up when googled for years to come.

Might just bite him in the butt one day, bad reputations can do that......................
 
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