When it's not exactly Made in the USA - Hoback

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I agree, and he should have kept after the retailers until they made the change, and he should have removed them as authorized dealers if they refused.

But it was the retailers who caused the problem to begin with and it's ridiculous that they refuse to accept any blame.
And more hearsay…you‘re like a broken record. Where do you plan on setting up shop once you get banned from here?
 
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A: very very dense.

When DLT posted that the knife was made in the USA, that was a false COA. It's also false advertising. And if anyone was to sue over it, guess who would be liable and who would not? DLT falsely claimed that the knives were made in the USA. Hoback did not.
You sure do make up a lot of stuff that other people said and did.
 
It would have been more succinct for him just to say "our knives and products are made by any number of people and manufacturers, somewhere in the world, using various methods and materials...all of which is then funneled through our shop to vendors and on to your door".

Can't be more transparent than that. :rolleyes:

Of course, that's fine, to tell new and future purchasers that their knives may be sourced from and built in any of a number of places.

Does nothing at all to salve the wounds of those already burnt by purchasing something which was not what they believed it to be.
Patriotic people of faith who are vets that represent god in everything they make. They just won't tell you what they actually make. So sleazy.

I can hear it now "but, but, they aren't lying!" Please....
 
Patriotic people of faith who are vets that represent god in everything they make. They just won't tell you what they actually make. So sleazy.

I can hear it now "but, but, they aren't lying!" Please....
The Mike Lindell philosophy of salesmanship. It's unfortunate that anyone buys into the claptrap.
 
That's sad. If I answered your question like that in court the judge would admonish me. You know better. I know better. That's a weak act, counselor.

I'm this close to pulling your ability to post further in this thread.
Why wait? He’s dishonest and a troll.
 
For anyone who missed it, Jake Hoback has now deleted his initial "explanation" post, the chart listing country of origin for all his products, and his apology video, and disabled comments on his entire Instagram. :rolleyes:
I’m shocked to hear this…
 
Why wait? He’s dishonest and a troll.
You're taking it too personally, imho, J JohnWE

Yes, it's frustrating, and sometimes irritating to feel like you're just banging your head against the wall...but the opposition is entitled to make their case, and we're entitled to ignore, rebut or simply shake our heads in wonder.

Nothing which has yet risen to the level of requiring moderator action (at this point).
 
I've been in scores of them, and this is how it would go:

ATTNY: Could you read from this printout of your webpage where it says, country of origin?

RTLR: It says USA.

ATTNY: And did Jake Hoback or anyone in his employ tell you that the knives were made in the USA?

RTLR: No.

ATTNY: I move to dismiss.

JUDGE: Granted.
Are you actually claiming to be an attorney or is claiming that you’ve attended civil trials your way of implying without stating facts? Like you’ve been doing in most of your comments in this thread.
 
Are you actually claiming to be an attorney or is claiming that you’ve attended civil trials your way of implying without stating facts? Like you’ve been doing in most of your comments in this thread.
Conveniently, it is exactly how Jack Hoback operated as well. "But I didn't lie!"
 
J JohnWE

I've temporarily suspended (four hours) your ability to post in this thread until you read the message I just sent you through the forums messaging system.

You are arguing and rehashing material we have long since dealt with. Once you finish reading the entirety of the thread, you will be able post any comments that are germane at that point...but it is making the thread more cumbersome to go back a week or two and challenge statements and positions which have already been addressed.

Nothing personal, just an administrative decision.
 
Patriotic people of faith who are vets that represent god in everything they make. They just won't tell you what they actually make. So sleazy.

I can hear it now "but, but, they aren't lying!" Please....
That's what really pisses me off, he is using God to cover up his sorry lying arse! Trying to play dumb that he didn't know dealers were listing his Chinese knives as made in the USA! He won't take responsibility trying to put blame on the dealers.
 
That's what really pisses me off, he is using God to cover up his sorry lying arse! Trying to play dumb that he didn't know dealers were listing his Chinese knives as made in the USA! He won't take responsibility trying to put blame on the dealers.
He wasn’t playing dumb about the dealers. He openly admitted he knew they were being mislabeled but failed to do anything. He said he tried to correct one dealer but gave up after a few attempts. He is for sure trying to put blame on the dealers though.
 
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