When it's not exactly Made in the USA - Hoback

[3D Anvil]

Except for it being the exact same thing where Hoback is comfortably selling knives that he's allowing the dealers he's entered into a contract with to sell his products, to inaccurately describe their point of origin.

It's absolutely nothing like the Hoback situation. He didn't misrepresent anything, or try to hide anything. What you seem to think is that he has an affirmative duty to act as the copy editor of online retailers' listings.

 

[Insipid Moniker]

You’re making a distinction because it isn’t in your favor not to do it. The concept is simple: If the government considers it “made in USA”, is it not reasonable to consider it “made in USA”?

According to the FTC, which is the actual governing body that sets those standards, absolutely not.

 

[shinyedges]

Again, I have no idea. Nor do you, with respect to Hoback. All we know is that some dealers misrepresented the COA of the knives, Hoback claims he tried to get some of them to fix the error, and he says they didn't, but he could have tried harder.

Yes I have his own words, video proof Jake knew for years his knives were being misrepresented online. 100% facts. He said so. What do you have to say about that?

Did Pena do that?

 

[Blues]

No disrespect, but what some other knife maker did years ago has no bearing on this Hoback situation.

No offense taken. But why would his knives arrive in the U.S. from overseas unmarked when it is required to get through Customs? Or if they were marked, why would the mark be removed, whether it had been etched or applied with adhesive?

 

[shinyedges]

You are correct, my mistake. But in the first post of yours I quoted, you were supporting a post that did

Bless your heart.

 

[jbmonkey]

Again, I have no idea. Nor do you, with respect to Hoback. All we know is that some dealers misrepresented the COA of the knives, Hoback claims he tried to get some of them to fix the error, and he says they didn't, but he could have tried harder.

we also know hoback said he has whole knives made overseas and mixed in with ones he made in America....we know cause he said it himself...unless you want to call him a liar on that?

 

[Quiet]

we also know hoback said he has whole knives made overssas and mixed in with ones he made in America....we know cause he said it himself...unless you want to call him a liar on that?

He's already called two dealers liars, so I wouldn't put it past him.

 

[3D Anvil]

not even on the box it came in?

Nope, not on the box of my Kizer Sheepdog or the Quiet Carry. Don't have the other boxes handy.

 

[shinyedges]

It's also slightly strange to automatically assume every company uses foreign screws. The US has nearly as much market share in the iron fasteners market as China (though both are far behind Germany) it's not unreasonable to use American made screws.

I know of a machine shop in Michigan that makes surgical screws. You are correct sir.

 

[3D Anvil]

we also know hoback said he has whole knives made overssas and mixed in with ones he made in America....we know cause he said it himself...unless you want to call him a liar on that?

Yep. And?

 

[Quiet]

It's absolutely nothing like the Hoback situation. He didn't misrepresent anything, or try to hide anything. What you seem to think is that he has an affirmative duty to act as the copy editor of online retailers' listings.

Didn't try to...what? Then what was his video admission today about??? LOL

Unbelievable. I feel like I'm watching the first Matrix movie again where Neo is dodging those bullets on the roof top.

 

[Danke42]

The fact is that his only admission was that he didn't try hard enough to correct the errors of these retailers.

Yep, just like being a tiny bit pregnant. Normal and nothing to see here.

 

[jbmonkey]

Yep. And?

and..... we know that Jake.....

 

[King of the Cheese]

It's also slightly strange to automatically assume every company uses foreign screws. The US has nearly as much market share in the iron fasteners market as China (though both are far behind Germany) it's not unreasonable to use American made screws.

That’s an incorrect statement. Asia dominates the fastener industry. The US and Europe are close to tied.

 

[jbmonkey]

Nope, not on the box of my Kizer Sheepdog or the Quiet Carry. Don't have the other boxes handy.

was asking my friend para.....about his Pena...thanks for your response though Jake.

 

[Danke42]

I wonder when a certain genius is going to remember I have him on Ignore?

Get used to disappointment

 

[3D Anvil]

According to the FTC, which is the actual governing body that sets those standards, absolutely not.

You're saying that the FTC won't allow manufacturers who meet their own standard for "made in the USA" label their products as such?

Anyway, it's a moot point because Hoback never claimed his knives were made in the USA.

 

[Knives&Lint]

What’s the logic here, that because Hoback asked USAmadeblade to sell their knives that it’s the equivalent of lying?

Yes

 

[3D Anvil]

was asking my friend para.....about his Pena...thanks for your response though Jake.

My pleasure, USA Made Blades.

 

[Insipid Moniker]

I know of a machine shop in Michigan that makes surgical screws. You are correct sir.

Yeah, I don't know one way or the other, but based on how important the knife community finds "Made in the USA" and how strict the actual, written FTC guidelines that I linked to are about using that to promote your products, I wouldn't leap to the assumption that "everyone is doing it," without some kind of evidence.