When it's not exactly Made in the USA - Hoback

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Insipid Moniker said:
Yeah, I don't know one way or the other, but based on how important the knife community finds "Made in the USA" and how strict the actual, written FTC guidelines that I linked to are about using that to promote your products, I wouldn't leap to the assumption that "everyone is doing it," without some kind of evidence.
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Demko makes their screws for their MG line and above all in shop.
 
3D Anvil said:
You're saying that the FTC won't allow manufacturers who meet their own standard for "made in the USA" label their products as such?

Anyway, it's a moot point because Hoback never claimed his knives were made in the USA.
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I'm not just saying that, I'm linking to very clear and hard evidence that shows it's factual. There's a big difference between procuring supplies and promoting a product.

As for the second point, sure, but if he also failed to label his products with their country of origin and it wasn't the US he's still at fault.
 
Yo Mama said:
Hoback now admitted they source parts from out of country

From ig

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Sorry for the small text, but it's what the company posted.

My immediate thought is what a scummy thing to do in all of your advertising using the claim USA made (sorry missing 100 percent mind you), when it's really more like USA assembled. With the prices that go on a Hoback I can't believe quality US parts were just impossible to find.

Feels like......lying......I have none and won't but one now.

But Hoback I know is by far not the only one.......qtrmst.....
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What's a Hoback?
 
Insipid Moniker said:
According to the FTC, which is the actual governing body that sets those standards, absolutely not.
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I literally quoted the FTC in a screenshot and there are links with this data. What is a more solid metric.. “nearly all”… or “more than 50%”? I gave an actual standard.. you’re ignoring it because “government procurement and buy American” doesn’t work in your favor. You can play picky choosy, but don’t call me “incorrect”.
 
Insipid Moniker said:
According to the FTC, which is the actual governing body that sets those standards, absolutely not.
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I literally quoted the FTC in a screenshot and there are links with this data. What is a more solid metric.. “nearly all”… or “more than 50%”? I gave an actual standard.. you’re ignoring it because “government procurement and buy American” doesn’t work in your favor. You can play picky choosy, but don’t call me “incorrect”.
 
Insipid Moniker said:
Yeah, I don't know one way or the other, but based on how important the knife community finds "Made in the USA" and how strict the actual, written FTC guidelines that I linked to are about using that to promote your products, I wouldn't leap to the assumption that "everyone is doing it," without some kind of evidence.
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I'm interested in how he skirts the branding of the knives to indicate country of origin. As far as made in the USA, all these "coincidences" scream not a coincidence. Dude admitted to having knowledge of their being mislabeled and somehow his knives don't say China or other origin country. 🧐
 
shinyedges said:
I'm interested in how he skirts the branding of the knives to indicate country of origin. As far as made in the USA, all these "coincidences" scream not a coincidence. Dude admitted to having knowledge of their being mislabeled and somehow his knives don't say China or other origin country. 🧐
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As I mentioned above, very few knives are labeled with a COA.
 
I'm sensing deliberate ignorance here...

...and that's where I'll draw the line.

I have enjoyed spirited arguments and sparring with attorneys at trial...but this is getting ludicrous. (It wasn't as much fun for them when the verdicts were read.)

Happy hunting, fellas.
 
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