When it's not exactly Made in the USA - Hoback

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3D Anvil said:
He literally said that he contacted at least some dealers to correct the false information, including multiple contacts with at least one dealer.
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And then said that he was afraid of the blowback later and let it slide. Gotta look at the whole story my man, not just what you cherry pick out. It sounds like he started out trying to tell a dealer, but it never took. And then after multiple places were saying his knives were made in the USA, he was too afraid to correct them because of what the response from the knife community would be.
 
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3D Anvil said:
Okay, so tell us how Hoback IMPLIED that his knives are all made in the US.
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His "about us" page says HE makes his knives. The archived page images showed that new wording about other countries wasn't there. Also, no where on his page does it say he sells knives completely made by other countries.
 
unwisefool said:
And then said that he was afraid of the blowback later and let it slide. Gotta look at the whole story my man, not just what you cherry pick out. It sounds like he started put trying to tell a dealer, but it never took. And then after multiple places were saying his knives were made in the USA, he was too afraid to correct them because of what the response from the knife community would be.
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Agreed. And that is what he was apologizing for. He concedes that he should have done more to set the record straight one he became aware of it.
 
Paratrooper06 said:
That IS the point. If you’re going to bash Hoback for non-compliance with the FTC, it needs to be a legal matter.. otherwise why would they give a damn?
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I'm not sure Jake hoback would appreciate you pushing people to take action through the ftc. Maybe people do need to report him?
 
NG VI said:
It's impossible to 'prove your case in court' before going to court, which must be done to sue someone.
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When you show up in court, after filing a suit, the judge is going to ask you to make your case.

Pretend this is court, and make your case. No “reee I think he makes knives in China!” is going to fly. Where is the EVIDENCE?
 
shinyedges said:
His "about us" page says HE makes his knives. The archived page images showed that new wording about other countries wasn't there. Also, no where on his page does it say he sells knives completely made by other countries.
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Well, he does make his knives, in addition to apparently outsourcing some of them. He's got videos going back several years where he plainly states that he uses outside contractors for some work, btw.
 
Paratrooper06 said:
When you show up in court, after filing a suit, the judge is going to ask you to make your case.

Pretend this is court, and make your case. No “reee I think he makes knives in China!” is going to fly. Where is the EVIDENCE?
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A podcaster said his knives were made in America and Jake didn't call me to tell me otherwise!!
 
I wonder where these guys got the wrong idea:

Hoback’s knives come in a nice handmade wood box, giving a great first impression. They come in various finishes, from stonewashed to black DLC, to the tiger stipe camo pictured above. CLICK HERE to see our lineup of Jake Hoback Knives. We are a factory authorized dealer and look forward to getting one of these awesome knives in your hand!

Below is the model I carry myself, the Kwaiback. Super strong, lightweight, and did I mention awesome?!Screenshot 2022-03-04 12.53.00 PM.png
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Paratrooper06 said:
But it is “problem solved” because the fact of the matter is that not every person makes buying decisions around “USA made”. People will still buy Hoback knives.. maybe not as many people, but they will.
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And that is a problem.

A business sitting on inventory that isn't selling isn't in business. Money spent on stuff that isn't selling or is selling very slowly could have been spent on something that does sell. They buy product to sell product so they can buy more product to sell. Maybe they could have used that money to fund another Sprint Run from Spyderco or an Exclusive from Benchmade. Or literally anything that would turn around quicker. More sales volume equals more potential profit. That's how businesses work. DLT and the other dealers with Hoback stock have to make the decision whether to slowly, eventually sell the Hoback stock so as to not take a monetary loss, or they have to sell at a reduced price to more quickly free up that money so they can buy stuff that'll sell quicker and recoup that loss. Not an easy decision, and not one they're happy they have to make.
 
3D Anvil said:
Well, he does make his knives, in addition to apparently outsourcing some of them. He's got videos going back several years where he plainly states that he uses outside contractors for some work, btw.
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Some work? You mean the entire knife? You asked how he implied his knives are made in the USA. I answered, never no where has he come forth and said he has entire knives made for him in other countries. He mentions parts... not whole knives.
 
3D Anvil said:
That's a representation by another dealer. And Hoback's full customs are 100% USA made.
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Most customs don't come from a factory. I don't think most custom makers churn out enough to be considered a factory. Most custom makers work in a "shop".

But, do your due diligence and let us know if the Czech vendor only carried (allegedly) custom knives. (I'm sure it was just a language issue.)

Oh wait, it's not your burden.

Nevermind.
 
Planterz said:
And that is a problem.

A business sitting on inventory that isn't selling isn't in business. Money spent on stuff that isn't selling or is selling very slowly could have been spent on something that does sell. They buy product to sell product so they can buy more product to sell. Maybe they could have used that money to fund another Sprint Run from Spyderco or an Exclusive from Benchmade. Or literally anything that would turn around quicker. More sales volume equals more potential profit. That's how businesses work. DLT and the other dealers with Hoback stock have to make the decision whether to slowly, eventually sell the Hoback stock so as to not take a monetary loss, or they have to sell at a reduced price to more quickly free up that money so they can buy stuff that'll sell quicker and recoup that loss. Not an easy decision, and not one they're happy they have to make.
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My point is they aren’t junk or trash, and I don’t buy your sensationalism that they are.
 
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