When it's not exactly Made in the USA - Hoback

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Blackfish775 said:
Lol. Yeah, he assumed that while he was marching to lynch the guy.

No one is saying that Hoback is the worst human on earth, and your hyperbole is silly.

Hell, Hoback ain't even the worst dude there's a GBU thread about.
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Facts. There's been some doozies when it comes to bad character knife makers.
 
Paratrooper06 said:
Yet it’s interesting how you place zero fault at the dealer for any of it. I guess Hoback makes a more attractive target than your favorite dealers. :)
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Yeah, I'm not a big fan of victim blaming.

From what I've seen, the dealers immediately took steps to deal with the misinformation as soon as it came to light.

If at some point we find out that there were dealers that knowingly mislabeled COO, then I will direct towards them the same ire I have for the other liars in this thread, such as you and Hoback. 🙂
 
Blackfish775 said:
Lol. Yeah, he assumed that while he was marching to lynch the guy.

No one is saying that Hoback is the worst human on earth, and your hyperbole is silly.

Hell, Hoback ain't even the worst dude there's a GBU thread about.
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I’d say if there’s a thread going on nearly 1,600 posts about the guy, he might not be the “worst dude ever”, but he’s definitely your GBU “flavor of the week”.. month… year perhaps. That’s saying something about how much you dislike him.
 
Blackfish775 said:
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of victim blaming.

From what I've seen, the dealers immediately took steps to deal with the misinformation as soon as it came to light.

If at some point we find out that there were dealers that knowingly mislabeled COO, then I will direct towards them the same ire I have for the other liars in this thread, such as you and Hoback. 🙂
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I get it.. hard to hate a company you’ve come to trust to ship you knives. Easier to focus on something more inconsequential in the long term.. like some guy in Idaho.

I mean, why give up fried chicken and pizza for your diet when cutting the croutons is so much easier?
 
Paratrooper06 said:
I’d say if there’s a thread going on nearly 1,600 posts about the guy, he might not be the “worst dude ever”, but he’s definitely your GBU “flavor of the week”.. month… year perhaps. That’s saying something about how much you dislike him.
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The length of this thread is directly related to you and Anvil's continued defense of the dude, defying all logic, reason, and fact.
 
shinyedges said:
This guy can't be this dense. This is intentional. Back in the day esav or morrow would have tossed him. Lucky the guys left have the patience of Gandhi.
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If there's no discernable difference between when you're being dumb on purpose or on accident, I don't think it matters.

Sorta like it doesn't matter if Hoback did or didn't lie to the dealers. Can't change the past, he can only deal with it from here out.

Hoback doesn't appear to be doing a good job of that.
 
Blackfish775 said:
If there's no discernable difference between when you're being dumb on purpose or on accident, I don't think it matters.

Sorta like it doesn't matter if Hoback did or didn't lie to the dealers. Can't change the past, he can only deal with it from here out.

Hoback doesn't appear to be doing a good job of that.
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I tend to agree. The end result is the same. His method of dealing with it is to blame them and delete everything. Not great.
 
Boru13 said:
Sorry to disappoint.
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For the record they (especially bastid) would have tossed my goofy arse as well if I went back and forth with these 2 this long. You're still my favorite mod 😉

And I appreciate the more freedom allowed to speak.
 
3D Anvil said:
So you believe him when he says that, but not when he says that he never told the retailers his knives were USA made. Mkay. Everything must be viewed in the light most unfavorable to Jake Hoback.
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Honestly, I would argue entirely the opposite. Every piece of available information points to Hoback lying about the origin of his knives. That's been the beginning and ending of the charges levied against him. No one is saying that he should be shot on sight. You, however, are insisting on stretching the bounds of credulity to give him every possible benefit of the doubt, including positing wildly unlikely hypothetical scenarios as explanations as to how he might not be lying. The simple, easy, logical conclusion that falls in line with Occam's Razor is that Jake Hoback lied. Then, when trying to defend himself about it, he lied again, because that's what liars do. You, however, have vociferously denied that possiblity at every turn, going to absurd lengths and torturing the extremes of logic in order to do so.
 
Insipid Moniker said:
Honestly, I would argue entirely the opposite. Every piece of available information points to Hoback lying about the origin of his knives. That's been the beginning and ending of the charges levied against him. No one is saying that he should be shot on sight. You, however, are insisting on stretching the bounds of credulity to give him every possible benefit of the doubt, including positing wildly unlikely hypothetical scenarios as explanations as to how he might not be lying. The simple, easy, logical conclusion that falls in line with Occam's Razor is that Jake Hoback lied. Then, when trying to defend himself about it, he lied again, because that's what liars do. You, however, have vociferously denied that possiblity at every turn, going to absurd lengths and torturing the extremes of logic in order to do so.
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Is the sentence “death”?

But seriously, what would you have him do at this point? Propose a solution instead of beating a dead horse.
 
shinyedges said:
This guy can't be this dense. This is intentional. Back in the day esav or morrow would have tossed him. Lucky the guys left have the patience of Gandhi.

Eta: bastid too.
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Stop trying to use subliminal techniques on us. Carl and I are drunk most of the afternoon and have our own language.
 
Boru13 said:
Man up and own it.
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He probably will at some point is my guess… but since he rushed to social media to play the “sorry for dealers misunderstanding” game, he might’ve burned the bridge to recovery. He’s probably screwed on the profitability front from here on out, and the business will never be the same.
 
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