Beckerhead Gear

I don't have CAD so you will have to draw this in your head. How about a cylinder container that opens in the middle. With a fire steal on one side and a striker/ diamond sharpener on the other. If you can fit in a laser would be cool also:)
 
DerekH said:
Drill hole lengthwise then remove the rest of the stock until it is the right height? I dunno.

Good god man, I am a computer nerd, not a machinist!
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Its all good, your doing a excellent job :thumbup:

We still got 3 weeks or so to come up with a design....
 
I think these are nice ideas, but... I've seen them all before. Why not just go simple? How about a round screw on top container? Like a beefed up Skoal can. Maybe 3" or so in diameter and a 1/2" interior depth. Big enuf to hold stuff, but small enuf to fit in a back pocket. Water tight with an O-ring. Can laser etch a logo or sumpthin on the top. Simple but effective. Just my 2 cents.

edit... can carry it in a Max tactical can case too. ;)
 
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hows about a BECKERHEAD fire steel, built like a BK2?

I envision a beefy hollowed out handle for tinder, and a 1" thick x 6" long firesteel.
 
WOOOOOOHOOOOOOO!!!!! Beckerheads ROCK OUT LOUD!!!!!

Moose
 
I just thought of a good idea, how about a Custom Fire Piston.

This would be sweet and I would make it so we get a coal like on a cigarette.....
 
Fire pistons are awesome, I have never been able to make one though. I've tried youtube versions, homemade versions and I get a big fat nothing for my troubles.

Moose
 
Fire pistons are neat, the concept behind them anyway, but if I am going to buy something, it is going to be something a little more useful.

So, all that aside, where are we? We can do the old tried and true firesteel capsule thingy. I like my idea, but then we run into manufacturing issues, at least from Flexxx. (My titanium guy has been working on a 5-axis cnc, but he is really busy, and getting things done by him usually cost a fair bit. Probably more than we are looking to spend on something. Plus he isn't a Beckerhead.) I am going to go ahead and vote nay on the fire piston idea. What else do we have out there?

I like the idea of a firesteel scraper that is a mini BK2 or something, but then again we run into manufacturing issues as that isn't something we are really going to be able to have made on a lathe. If we use the lathe as the starting point for the projects, we are left with cylindrical shaped items, such as firesteel capsule or fire piston or something we have as of yet not come up with.

One thing I will say is that if we do a firesteel capsule thingy, I really hate the idea of epoxying it in place, simply because it would be a bitch to replace the firesteel when the time came. Set screw or something would be much more reasonable in my opinion.

All that being said, thoughts? Ideas? Anyone?

I will work up a newer drawing of a firesteel capsule thingy in the meantime. It dawns on me that all my measurements I was using were based on 3/16" and not 3/8", so I need to redo stuff anyways. (And as always when I am talking about something else, I get an idea for something else. I love how my brain refuses to work on the task at hand.)

What about a large capsule where the firesteel bit is reversible, like an exotac nanostriker? But bigger. Much bigger. Big enough to where even with a 3/8" firesteel inside we still have a good bit of storage around it in the inner storage chamber?
 
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I like the capsule idea, it was I was wanting when I heard Flexxx could run lathe. I like the idea of a big capsule with a firesteel in it. I like the idea of being able to screw in a 3/8" firesteel in the end as well, somthing that can be pulled out, screwed in, used and then put back when not in use sounds good to me.

Moose
 
DerekH said:
I like the idea of a firesteel scraper that is a mini BK2 or something, but then again we run into manufacturing issues as that isn't something we are really going to be able to have made on a lathe.
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I really like the idea of having a mini BK2 handle on a firesteel that's head in place with a screw.

If we had a drawing of that done could we not at least find out how much it would cost have them made?

I just think its an idea at least looking into more as we explore the options of having something just turned on a lathe.
 
If you are working in a softer material than steel (aluminum, delrin, micarta, etc...) a woodworking router with carbide bits can be used as a poor man's milling machine.
For that matter, so long as you're not looking for accuracy in the 1/1000ths range, a good drill press running at high speed can be used to mill as well. (I've even used my drill press as a vertical lathe for turning small projects in wood)
 
moosez45 said:
I like the idea of a big capsule with a firesteel in it. I like the idea of being able to screw in a 3/8" firesteel in the end as well, somthing that can be pulled out, screwed in, used and then put back when not in use sounds good to me.

Moose
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Looking at a preliminary drawing here, I may have jumped the gun a bit. If we do something where the firesteel itself can be placed on the inside, it would be really difficult to keep your extra stuff in such a way that you wouldn't have to take it all out, reverse the firesteel, make sure it is screwed in, then put your stuff back in around the firesteel, and then seal up the other end. I don't think it would be easy enough to use to be what we really want.

It does occur to me though, just because Flexxx is working with just a lathe that we do not have to limit ourself to just cylindrical shapes. We can do others that have cylindrical cutouts in them. Say maybe a rectangular-ish shaped device, with two holes in it, one big enough to accomodate the firesteel, maybe in a way that it can be stored inside then unscrewed and attached with the firesteel out, then maybe another larger hold through the device, with end caps that screw on for storage of tinder and whatnot.
 
Perhaps we could look at the firesteel.com firesteel tubes for inspiration. The Deluxe firesteel tube sounds a lot like what ya'll are describing...?
 
Here's a thought. It may stink, but here it is.
I'm wondering about three parts: a capsule with a threaded recess, a piece of fire steel, and a threaded plug. On two sides of the threaded plug, a hole could be drilled and recessed set screws could go in to hold the fire steel securely in place. The plug would screw into the threaded recess of the capsule. The steel could be screwed in for sparking, and taken out to go inside the capsule. Crazy? Absolutely. I haven't had enough coffee yet.
 
Guyon said:
Here's a thought. It may stink, but here it is.
I'm wondering about three parts: a capsule with a threaded recess, a piece of fire steel, and a threaded plug. On two sides of the threaded plug, a hole could be drilled and recessed set screws could go in to hold the fire steel securely in place. The plug would screw into the threaded recess of the capsule. The steel could be screwed in for sparking, and taken out to go inside the capsule. Crazy? Absolutely. I haven't had enough coffee yet.
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I think that is pretty much one of the ideas we have had up here.

Look at it like this though, I have this tube. It has a removable end cap that can be screwed in either way to the tube, either with the firesteel in or the firesteel out. If I want it in, how the heck am I going to keep my pjcb's or jute or whatever out of the way enough to screw the end on with the firesteel in and not have it be a huge headache? I think to be successful as a device, we have to have the storage separate from where the firesteel will be stored. That is just my $0.02, but it makes sense to me.
 
DerekH said:
I think that is pretty much one of the ideas we have had up here.

Look at it like this though, I have this tube. It has a removable end cap that can be screwed in either way to the tube, either with the firesteel in or the firesteel out. If I want it in, how the heck am I going to keep my pjcb's or jute or whatever out of the way enough to screw the end on with the firesteel in and not have it be a huge headache? I think to be successful as a device, we have to have the storage separate from where the firesteel will be stored. That is just my $0.02, but it makes sense to me.
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It can be done...
http://firesteel.com/products/Deluxe-FireSteel-Tube-Bunker.html
 
DerekH said:
Good lord yes, at over seven inches long I should imagine it could be done! That thing is ridiculously huge! If everything fails you can just use that as a club!
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Indeed. In fact, I think it's a tad TOO large. I was simply thinking that the design idea could be used as inspiration. I wouldn't want to see anything copy the design. However, I think it served well to illustrate that one could create a design that could easily accommodate both tinder and firesteel in a self contained unit. I personally don't like having my steel exposed at all times (hehe...:o). I like the idea of being able to screw it inside the tube (hehehe...:o)...

Ok, I'd better stop before I get carried away...
 
This is the best of what I am able to come up with. It depends on Flexxx (or whoever) being able to drill and thread it even though the holes are off center. More of the device is held solid while the drill bit is rotated into it sorta thing.

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Imagine at the end of each tube piece a threaded cap that fits into it. The one for the steel could of course be attached to the firesteel itself, and be reversible. Length of this is ~4.5" and height is just under ~2" with width at ~1.25".
 
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