Keep An Eye Out for Berak

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Brennanscott said:
I thought you deleted your account.
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no, he made a dramatic "exit" here:


Berak said:
I can well understand the general view taken, and I respect that. The fact of thee matter is that I didnt back out of the deal, it was revoked because he didnt like the fact that I was up front and honest about a 1 in 1000 shot on another knife that was probably already sold. If I hadnt said anything about it , it would not have been an issue. I was prepared and planning to buy the knife and the offer was revoked from me a few hours later.

Wouldnt it be prudent to at least wait for the back out to occur before branding someone, revoking the offer, calling a moderator, and starting this thread? A few hours is all I asked.

I guess I will just have my account deleted, no point in wasting any more time here. Well played Dave, you win, bravo and all that. I harbor no ill will to you (even though you apparently do me from the tone of all your emails and postings here) or anyone else here.

Take care and stay safe,
Tim
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but clearly just can't stay away from the drama. which is ironic, since he claimed we all like drama.
 
oh, and they don't normally delete accounts.


all you have to do is resist the urge to come back.


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Berak said:
I have a problem with how this whole thing was handled. Dave immediately retracted to offer to sell when I told him there was a small chance I'd buy another knife instead.
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As he should have. You had just demonstrated that your word is not your bond. Why should he further trust you to make good on a deal, especially one involving a rather expensive knife?

Berak said:
I was called a flake, Dave called a mod to give me a warning for defending myself in the thread where he calls me a flake (apparently thats OK though).
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I believe Dave's intention was to use flake as a verb rather than call you flaky in general. As in... "Berak flaked" on the deal. Indeed, you did flake. You said "I'll take it" and then immediately turned around and told the seller you were waiting to see what happened with another knife.

Chat is not allowed in the sale threads. That's a pretty recent rule, but one that is fairly well enforced. Dave's post was an update that (a) you flaked, and (b) the knife was still available. Your post, on the other hand, was a long-winded and strange rationalization for not keeping your word. It wasn't relevant to the sale of the knife, and it was just clouding up Dave's sale thread.

Berak said:
This thread is started to smear my reputation becasue now Dave has an Axe to grind, and as says, he's loving every minute of it.
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I started this thread. And I did so not out of any grand malice, but because I wanted Berak to understand, without any mistake, that "I'll take it" means "I'll take it"--at least here at Bladeforums and in probably 99% of the rest of the world. This interpretation holds whether you're buying a $10 Mora or a $600 Busse.
 
Funny thing is...

This thread could have been about two posts long. If Berak had come in here and said, "Guys, I'm sorry. I screwed up, and I should have ponied up for the knife I said I was going to buy. The other knife was irrelevant," then I would have just locked this thread. Instead, we got some insight into the kind of mind that can rationalize away any action.

I suspect Berak may be in politics.
 
Guyon said:
Funny thing is...

This thread could have been about two posts long. If Berak had come in here and said, "Guys, I'm sorry. I screwed up, and I should have ponied up for the knife I said I was going to buy. The other knife was irrelevant," then I would have just locked this thread. Instead, we got some insight into the kind of mind that can rationalize away any action.

I suspect Berak may be in politics.
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I see your point. It needed to be done for honesty's sake. If someone has a bad deal, or even a questionable one on here it kind of feels like one's duty to warn the rest of the pack here.

There is more than likely some bad apples on here, there has to be. But the majority appear to be hard working, honest people and should be treated in the like.

I appreciate the heads up in the first place.
 
Berak said:
And what the hell is there "not to be trusted" about exactly? So if I post Ill take it on someone else's sale item, they won't believe me until they receive payment? Lol, that is hilarious. They should assume the same from anyone.
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That is the problem. This is not ebay. What you did was quite equal to making a winning bid and backing out.

This place operates on honesty.

It is not something to LOL about. When you say "I'll take it." you need to be serious.

You think that is hilarious? You are sadly mistaken and if that is actually the case you obviously do not belong here or in the knife world where reputation, owning up to mistakes and honesty are actually important.

You can take this as B.S. or you can take it as fact.
I suggest to take it as fact. (based on 20 years of experience).

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Yes I do normally ship without payment. (and I am not talking about a knife worth a few hundred either.)
 
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I had originally posted some friendly advice here. Another example of why I need to stop posting before I read the whole thread.

Berak, grow up. This has to be the most childish pissing contest I have read in a long time. What on earth did you hope to gain with this? Everyone makes mistakes, you are new to the forum so it's almost to be expected that you would slip up. Correcting the mistake, apologizing and moving on will get you worlds farther than immature ranting and picking fights.
 
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Perhaps Barak will favor us next, by singing that wonderful show tune "Oklahoma" while tap dancing?

His current "song and dance" grows tedious.
 
I missed this before, but Berak continued his defiant act over in the Busse subforum.

After asking about the Busse Ganzas, Berak was reminded of an important rule in these offerings. The advice was sound since Busse really does take issue when you change your order. You effectively go to the back of the line as far as availability, and it's possible you don't get the knives you want.

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On additional thing, Berak.

During a Ganzaa, if you say, "I want A, B, 2 of C, 2 of D, and 2 of E" and then later change your mind when Amy-0 tells you, "Hey, congratulations, you got everything you want and the total comes to $3,400. How would you like to pay?"--if you change your mind about what you wanted (i.e. "I'll take A, B, C, and D, but I don't want E any more.")...may the Lord have pity on your poor fool soul. You will go to the bottom of the list of folks who participated in the Ganza (that's a bad thing because you likely won't be getting any knives) and to the top of Amy-0's list (which is arguably worse for your continued well-being). My point is, if you say you want something, it would be in your best interest to not back out on that.
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Berak's response (after being edited by a moderator)...

Berak said:
Really? Will Amy tell me she's cancelling my offer because I was looking at another companies knives too?


Dont be trying to start another ****fest here, Ill worry about me, you keep your nose out of it.
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After a few more similar posts, Berak says he's dropped the confrontational postings. I hope so.

I also hope that he's learned that "I'll take it" means "I'll take it"--with no questions or hesitations--both in the Exchange and with Busse Knife Company.
 
"I'll take it" now means;

"You can pull the item off of the market because I promise that I want it and will send you the money for it.... unless I find another item to buy that uses all of my funds and in that case I will not send you any money for the item that I promised to buy from you."
 
Berak said:
I was paying within 3 hours, is that "holding" it? Really? What if I didnt even see the email till the next day? I find it absurd to expect payment within 1 hour. You know on EBay how long a seller must wait before he can file a non payment? 1 week.
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Take it as you may, but when I buy OR sell something... and myself or the buyer posts an "I'll Take it".... I feel that should immediately be followed up with either a PM or an Email to confirm payment arrangements. At that time, if it's in the middle of the night or whatever... one can expect to be in contact ASAP with the other party.... if no followup is made right away... it just feels questionable.

I always post the following now in my sale ads... "First "I'll Take it", followed by an email, is the new owner!

YMMV

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Berak said:
I presented the email, unaltered, as is. I guess my reputation here is forever ruined for making a simple mistake. I will try to get on with my life the best way I can. :rolleyes:
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Hmmmm... it used to be a hand shake was all that one needed to make a deal.... but that has been changed too... (by a relative of yours? LOL... just kidding, kind of) now we need signed documents for everything!

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I guess this thread won't die, lol.

A few corrections, my "defiant" act was a request not to bring this into that forum. If you think on_the_edge posted what he did without knowing anything about this thread and issue, your being pretty ignorant.

I am the one who edited my response to remove the slang term for escrement, not a moderator.

And the big one that seems to be ignored by everyone, I didn't ever nix the deal, the seller did. That is a fact that even he admits to. Yes, I shouldn't have said that I might, but I told him so he nixed it. The point being, I was prepared to follow through and buy it when he cancelled the offer. This FACT seems to be ignored over and over again.

Now you can proceed with the Berak bashing...
 
Berak said:
I guess this thread won't die, lol.

A few corrections, my "defiant" act was a request not to bring this into that forum. If you think on_the_edge posted what he did without knowing anything about this thread and issue, your being pretty ignorant.

I am the one who edited my response to remove the slang term for escrement, not a moderator.

And the big one that seems to be ignored by everyone, I didn't ever nix the deal, the seller did. That is a fact that even he admits to. Yes, I shouldn't have said that I might, but I told him so he nixed it. The point being, I was prepared to follow through and buy it when he cancelled the offer. This FACT seems to be ignored over and over again.

Now you can proceed with the Berak bashing...
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No. The REAL fact is that the seller saw that your "I'll take it" wasn't really a firm commitment from you that he could trust.
 
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