My experience with Liu Kang

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nick425 said:
He will not get banned for this. There is something going on behind the scenes...
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Money and the fact if LK is banned, we will likely not hear about the rare Busse he owns. I really would like to see LK banned, but if he isn't I honestly wouldn't be surprised nor would I see BF policy to be bad either. Just one of those that fall through the cracks (and in this case, what LK is smearing certainly isnt any better then what's already inside ;) ).
 
He should be banned....Problem is he generates revenue for the site so it will never happen....
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Bullshit.

He will not get banned for this. There is something going on behind the scenes...
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Complete and utter Bullshit.

You can call into question LK's ethics and behavior But to accuse BladeForums of anything underhanded is just plain wrong.

If you really felt that way why would you continue to be involved in such a soiled environment?


LK might be a greedy so and so but has he really done anything to warrant a Ban?
 
braillediver said:
LK might be a greedy so and so but has he really done anything to warrant a Ban?
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Have you read any of the other posts of people dealing with LK? There are people buying knives advertised one way and getting knives completely not as advertised, and what does LK do? Shrugs it off and says it's out of his hands, that Busse should take care of it.

I believe this is called false advertisement.
 
Bastid said:
He does? Exactly how did you come to that conclusion?
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Well, his membership for a start, then there are the people that he attracts to the site to buy Busse knives....no doubt some of them become members as well, paying a fee to the site....
 
Balislinger said:
It's OK to charge for S&H, not just the S. Many folks forget about the H part, but it definitely costs a business money in terms of time, transportation, and materials to get to the S part. Individuals should forget about the H part though. Just build the cost of shipping into the product, that's the easier way to go.
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There are many different carriers, so I’ll address USPS, as this was the carrier used in this transaction.

The “handling” portion isn’t as dramatic as it once was. For example, customers can order boxes online and boxes are delivered. Customers can order and print postage online, which is 10 – 15 percent cheaper than running it to the local PO. Oh, the “flat rate” thing is amazing. Once the item(s) is/are ready to move, drop it in your mailbox or schedule a pick up.

Yep, out of pocket for a little tape (unless you order a roll or two of USPS tape – it’s free too), packing material, and several minutes of time.

So, the “H” part, using USPS, isn’t as steep as some believe. In fact, it isn’t as bad with the other service providers. I’m speaking as a business owner using all of the shipping providers.



Nothing pisses me off more that paying an exorbitant “S&H” price and find out, after receiving the box, said expense is JACKED UP!

First thing that comes to mind, a secondary means of generating revenue. It happens. . .I’ve seen and witnessed it. For example, if a seller can earn $10 per parcel and moves 100 per month. . . .well, $1,000 isn’t chump change. Now think of it on an annual basis.

Even at half the amount provided. . . .sheeezzzzz.

dericdesmond requested a specific service – parcel insured. LK failed to purchase the necessary insurance, but kept the funds and refuses to refund the $11 (+/-).
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Wanting to reverse the entire transaction over $11 (+/-) reminds me of the old adage, “cutting off the nose to spite the face.”
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shirogane said:
Well, his membership for a start, then there are the people that he attracts to the site to buy Busse knives....no doubt some of them become members as well, paying a fee to the site....
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:rolleyes:

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dericdesmond said:
Nick425^ if you know that to be fact then post. If its speculation lets try and minmize mmkay, thanks
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Well, without speculating, it does appear to me that some exception/s have occurred. *What* those exceptions were, if any, I won't guess about.

That said, how else can the LK matter be explained? It's not like this is the first time complaints have been made regarding his practices on this forum.

GBU has been a pretty good venue for ferreting out Members with questionable practices, resulting in various disciplinary actions, warnings, restrictions, bans, etc..., I believe.

Yet, in LK's situation, he seems to emerge unscathed. I don't need to know what's going on behind closed doors. All I need to see is what's been posted here and what's been done about it.

Again, I won't speculate what may or may not be going on, or why. But, clearly, to me, he's getting some form of special consideration, by whom and for what reason doesn't really matter, all this said in my humble opinion.
 
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shirogane said:
Well, his membership for a start, then there are the people that he attracts to the site to buy Busse knives....no doubt some of them become members as well, paying a fee to the site....
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LK attracts people to BF? How certain are you about this? Where are your facts?

I know of people that have refused to take part in the Busse sub-forum because of LK's antics, but haven't heard of anyone who joined here because of him.
 
CWL said:
LK attracts people to BF? How certain are you about this? Where are your facts?

I know of people that have refused to take part in the Busse sub-forum because of LK's antics, but haven't heard of anyone who joined here because of him.
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Just an assumption. There must be some reason he is still around.....money is usually the reason....
 
CWL said:
LK attracts people to BF? ...
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I can see where it's possible.

LK seems pretty agressive in promoting his inventory, so it wouldn't surprise me if he's able to drive/bring in traffic, somehow.

Hey, under his occupation, he lists "Business Logistic". I include online strategies as part of those logistics (marketing/advertising/sales, etc...) .

I believe he's quite good at working the deal, so to speak, for privs/perks, etc. I think he sees, and is able to show, the benefits of partnering. What's good for him is good for wherever he's allowed to hang his shingle, imo.
 
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Yeah, sure, without LK working the rubes, Busse wouldn't be sellin' all those knives ...

NObody has a financial incentive in covering for him.
And all the moderators get out of this is aggravation.

Which is not grounds for banning, not him, not the rest of you, either.
 
risen said:
Well, without speculating, it does appear to me that some exception/s have occurred. *What* those exceptions were, if any, I won't guess about.

That said, how else can the LK matter be explained? It's not like this is the first time complaints have been made regarding his practices on this forum.

GBU has been a pretty good venue for ferreting out Members with questionable practices, resulting in various disciplinary actions, warnings, restrictions, bans, etc..., I believe.

Yet, in LK's situation, he seems to emerge unscathed. I don't need to know what's going on behind closed doors. All I need to see is what's been posted here and what's been done about it.

Again, I won't speculate what may or may not be going on, or why. But, clearly, to me, he's getting some form of special consideration, by whom and for what reason doesn't really matter, all this said in my humble opinion.
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This is what I am getting at. I have worked with 2 other community forums and we banned several people after these kind of things went down. Why keep them, when all they do is damage the community? This many complaints and yet NOTHING has been done about it? Interesting...
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Yeah, sure, without LK working the rubes, Busse wouldn't be sellin' all those knives ...

NObody has a financial incentive in covering for him.
And all the moderators get out of this is aggravation.

Which is not grounds for banning, not him, not the rest of you, either.
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What is grounds for banning?
 
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I, for one, believe in paying for the extras and I would be really pissed if I paid for a square of toilet paper and it wasn't there. I believe that if you paid extra for insurance and there was no insurance, then you deserve your money back.

There have been many cases such as this from unscrupulous back-room mail order operations. That's why PayPal REQUIRES insurance on anything $250 and over.

I chose to vote with my dollar -- I simply don't buy from some stores, websites and members.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Yeah, sure, without LK working the rubes, Busse wouldn't be sellin' all those knives ...

NObody has a financial incentive in covering for him.
And all the moderators get out of this is aggravation.

Which is not grounds for banning, not him, not the rest of you, either.
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It's not the aggravation I'm focusing on. Rather, it's the source of it, the reason/s for the aggravation.

LK hasn't caused aggravation due to his personality (at least, not for me), but his practices, I believe. It's those practices that are being questioned here, and it's those practices which I do believe may be grounds for banning, or at least some other form of disciplinary action.

But, hey, if he's allowed to continue pushing his wares here, no biggie. I just won't be buying from him. :cool:

Btw, Esav, by your own words, clearly, Busse has "financial incentive" in supporting LK's continued presence here, base on "without LK working the rubes, Busse wouldn't be sellin' all those knives", I believe. Also, a Dealer Membership is considerably more than other memberships, correct? Money being collected there. Finally, *if* LK is here "at Jerry Busse's request" (stated earlier), then I guess that might be another Dealer Membership to consider, one with a lot more pull than LK, I believe.

These are just the most immediate possible incentives I see. I think other incentives exist. Whether they're outright financial ($) or not, in the end, it all eventually comes down to $$$, in my opinion. Again, no biggie. I can control where my money goes. None of it will ever go to LK.
 
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