My experience with Liu Kang

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This is FEEDBACK, not Whine & Cheese.

Discuss the topic.
Not each other.

This thread will be reopened tomorrow.
 
Gentlemen, start your engines.

See if you can find a topic to stay on. This is FEEDBACK, not one of the food fight forums. New information is better than mindless repetition.
 
I'll echo what the others said.LK should have given DD a refund for the insurance he paid for & did not receive.Also,that packaging was pathetic.He's lucky a postal worker wasn't hurt.
 
richard j said:
exactly what i meant. lk, its pretty lowlife to do what you did. i have a question. if someone does not ask for insurance and the knife is really stolen, will you replace it or try to worm your way out of replacing it since you said you would if the knife eric ordered were stolen?
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i'm still waiting for an answer to my question.
 
After I'm done checking Statutes, etc..., later today, I'll come back with my findings and post them here, if I haven't been banned by then to keep me from posting, or the BF cheerleaders haven't run more interference to get the thread shut down.

For the record, finding out whether or not the insurance issue was legal or not is directly on topic with this thread, imo, since its practice (insurance) is being questioned/discussed. I don't know why anyone would want to steer away from the possibility of LK's actions as being illegal. Maybe LK has more pull/influence than we realized.

I'm already familiar with LK's "self-insurance". The problem with this is that he doesn't identify it as "self-insurance" when posting/advertising his knives. It seems to be promoted as "insurance" only, giving folks the impression they're getting official postal insurance, or at least some other bonded insurance.

Anyway, hope I'm around long enough to share the truth.

risen
(Proud owner of a new warning & infraction.)
 
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if he self insures, he should just tell people that he will be responsible for a lost or damaged knife instead of taking the money they provide for the insurance and putting it in his pocket.
 
I think the reason we are seeing repetition is because LK keeps on avoiding the same questions over, and over again.
 
risen said:
After I'm done checking Statutes, etc..., later today, I'll come back with my findings and post them here, if I haven't been banned by then to keep me from posting, or the BF cheerleaders haven't run more interference to get the thread shut down.

For the record, finding out whether or not the insurance issue was legal or not is directly on topic with this thread, imo, since its practice (insurance) is being questioned/discussed. I don't know why anyone would want to steer away from the possibility of LK's actions as being illegal. Maybe LK has more pull/influence than we realized.

I'm already familiar with LK's "self-insurance". The problem with this is that he doesn't identify it as "self-insurance" when posting/advertising his knives. It seems to be promoted as "insurance" only, giving folks the impression they're getting official postal insurance, or at least some other bonded insurance.

Anyway, hope I'm around long enough to share the truth.

risen
(Proud owner of a new warning & infraction.)
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Firstly Lui Kang must be lovin this, with you misdirecting the issue and pushing your agenda, LK does not need to respond. You are not doing the OP any or this thread any favours. Secondly you may wish to drop the signature bit as you are only asking for trouble, by the way were you forced to join Bladeforums???
 
tendy said:
...with you misdirecting the issue and pushing your agenda, ...
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No "misdirecting" happening. If anything, I believe I'm making sure the issue doesn't go away. My only agenda is getting at the truth. I just don't see why some folks are putting more importance on my wanting to check into the legalities of some of these issues that have been mentioned, than on LK, himself. It really makes me wonder

tendy said:
...LK does not need to respond. ...
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Respond, or incriminate himself?

tendy said:
...You are not doing the OP any or this thread any favours. ...
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I'm looking out for all of us, wanting to help ensure more folks don't suffer these issues.

tendy said:
...Secondly you may wish to drop the signature bit as you are only asking for trouble, by the way were you forced to join Bladeforums???
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Trouble? Is that a threat? No, I wasn't forced to join BF. Why, am I going to be forced to leave?

Really, why don't we keep the focus on LK and his practices? Do you work for LK?
 
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risen said:
...if I haven't been banned by then to keep me from posting, or the BF cheerleaders haven't run more interference to get the thread shut down.

Anyway, hope I'm around long enough to share the truth.

risen
(Proud owner of a new warning & infraction.)
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Jeez. Ever heard the phrase "martyr complex"? Take a break from your research and read up on it a bit. Do it with an open mind and I bet it will be more productive and, ultimately, more fulfilling than combing through legal statutes state by state. Or are you starting with Fed. statutes?

Other than that, good luck with your research- though I have no clue what you expect to accomplish. I'd wager that the vast majority of people that are active in the exchange have heard of LK and are familiar with the way he operates.
 
roughedges said:
Jeez. Ever heard the phrase "martyr complex"? Take a break from your research and read up on it a bit. Do it with an open mind and I bet it will be more productive and, ultimately, more fulfilling than combing through legal statutes state by state. Or are you starting with Fed. statutes?

Other than that, good luck with your research- though I have no clue what you expect to accomplish. I'd wager that the vast majority of people that are active in the exchange have heard of LK and are familiar with the way he operates.
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Still don't get what the problem is. Folks have an issue with LK's practices. I'm taking a little initiative to follow up on it, so I'm the bad guy? Interesting. Usually when folks try to discourage others from learning the truth of things, it's because there's something to hide.

Hey, if I'm willing to invest a little time & effort for my fellow Members, what's the prob? I'm not here ranting & raving, criticizing folks, knocking them. It should be no skin off your nose. So many people like you taking the time to contribute nothing but negative remarks, yet offer no attempt whatsoever to come up with a solution. The ignorance is amazing.

Martyr? You might want to grab a dictionary before using that term.

Trust me, I'm not losing sleep over this. I'll find out what I can, and that's that.

Now, can we focus on the issues in this thread, or are you going to keep distracting from the topic?
 
The story of a little man, and the knife community who shunned him.
21 pages and still no legitimate explanation. Only LK's foot-in-mouth BS.
I wonder how much money Dan Huang has actually made from his little insurance Scam??? $11 x ???
If he can rip people off with no ethical remorse...what else does he LIE about???
This thread is definitely getting old, but we are still waiting for some closure or acknowledment of his wrongdoing.
 
Risen, do as you do bro, not sure what will come from it but its your time. You aint hurtin my feelings none.
 
dericdesmond said:
Risen, do as you do bro, not sure what will come from it but its your time. You aint hurtin my feelings none.
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Thank you, sir. I appreciate it.

I'll admit, whenever I see a wrong being committed, it bugs me. Gets me going even more when there are folks who seem to discourage from getting at the truth. Don't know why they'd want to do that.

For me, it's become a matter of principle. Thought that mattered around here. I guess as long as cash isn't a factor. Oh, well.

Thanks again, bro.
 
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My apologies. Still haven't gotten a chance to dive into some heavy reading (too much work).

But, the USPS Fraud Division did call back. They expressed interest *if* there's a pattern where merchandise arrived damaged. I do recall at least one poster on this thread who mentioned he got a damaged/defective knife and was initially referred to the manufacturer by the Dealer, where insurance had been paid, I believe. If there were more cases like that, I got the impression USPS would want to investigate.

It was recommended I contact my State AG. Apparently, some States may have more interest in this sort of thing. If so, seems like it'll be hit & miss, depending on the State. I have a feeling it may fall under a different category, as well. We'll see.

Waiting to hear back from the publisher for those Dummies books. Got cced on an email asking for more info on "...You may not charge your buyer for insurance unless you are actually paying for insurance from a licensed third-party insurance company. Charging and not fulfilling insurance is a violation of state law. ... " (from their eBay for Dummies, 6th Edition, page 234). They may not reply till tomorrow. Again, I realize Dummies is not a legal authority. Still, they might save some time by providing me with where they're drawing that "violation of state law" thing from.

So, it seems like State it is, unless there are recurring damaged merchandise issues, which the USPS would then look into if shipped through them, I believe.

Btw, I'm only focusing on the possible criminal angle, not civil. Last post until I get more intel. Thanks. (Back to work.)
 
Risen, The one deal I had with you was absolutely flawless and by the book so I understand why situations like this tick you off. Its all good. Thanks again for that sweet little freebie dude.
 
Has it taken you clowns this long to figure out the truth. If that is the case, I guess I need to feel sorry for you, please stop assuming everyone else is as slow to understand things.

There are plenty of folks who I would not deal with under any circumstances whatsoever. Hang around a while, lean a little and they will stick out like sore thumbs.
 
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