Rycen took my sons hope away.

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I can't believe the OP is back here posting more rhetoric,

...but has still not refunded the money. :mad:




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sosad said:
No I have no way to sell the rest of the few remaining knives in my collection to get my son through this.
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Come on, now - thats a major load of horse petunias. First of all, no one in America is denied treatment for an inability to pay, and even a large knife collection would only fund about 30 seconds of cancer treatment. And as for selling your knives, there are other knife and related forums. Many of them. There is eBay. There are gun/knife shows. There are personal solicitations to potential buyers. There are flea markets. Craigslist. Local newspaper ads. On and on and on. If you really wanted to sell a knife, or anything else for that matter, a properly motivated seller would darn well figure out a way to do it.

Its impossible for me or anyone out here on the interweb to have even the slightest idea of real facts are in this case. But blaming a buyer and/or moderator on a knife website for impeding your progress of your son's purported treatment really strains credulity. And despite claiming to have the most compelling reason for action that one can imagine - a seriously sick child - you have still failed to bring this thing to resolution.

I sure hope that you are not telling the truth about having a sick son, but if you are then please get this little Bladeforums thing taken care of so you can move on to more important matters. Either way, good luck to you.
 
Over Kill, something you can and should do right now... and I mean immediately... is ask that the despicable title of this thread be changed.
 
How is it that while selling off your entire collection out of financial desperation you are also advertising in your sigline that you are looking to buy several expensive items?

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To the OP - sorry to hear of your situation. I think all of us with humanity left within them can feel your pain. However, regarding the situation that has transpired, I would encourage you to re-read posts #78 and #80 5 times. Not knocking the others that have contributed but these specifically are quite eloquent and sum up what happened objectively and how you can make things right. It is never to late. I even thought about and still might perhaps offer you the option of sending me your knives and then list them for you to help generate the assistance you need for your son. However, there is that business with the refund and the buyer needs his money back. That refund needs to happen and accompanied by a sincere apology to him and possibly Rycen as well. It is up to you to do the right thing now and your son is in our prayers.
 
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I even thought about and still might perhaps offer you the option of sending me your knives and then list them for you to help generate the assistance you need for your son.
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Just to be clear...while the sentiments expressed in the quote above are inspired (no doubt) by a sincere desire to help, selling for others is not permitted on this site.
 
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As a new member on this forum, I've learned in a short time that this place appears to take care of its own. I'm getting back into collecting and have purchased numerous knives from forum members in a short period. All my dealings have been trouble free and friendly.
I am not here to doubt your families situation, however, you need to care for your son and family RIGHT NOW. Make things right on this forum issue and then turn your attention 100% to your son and wife. You do not need the headaches that were generated over this matter. Your comments can surely be forgiven, if made in anger. We have all said things that we regret, it's part of being human and imperfect. Just take care of this issue and move on.
 
Blues said:
Just to be clear...while the sentiments expressed in the quote above are inspired (no doubt) by a sincere desire to help, selling for others is not permitted on this site.
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RedDevil sent me an astute pm noting the same. My apologies and I intend to uphold the forum's rules and regs.

bass806 said:
As a new member on this forum, I've learned in a short time that this place appears to take care of its own. I'm getting back into collecting and have purchased numerous knives from forum members in a short period. All my dealings have been trouble free and friendly.
I am not here to doubt your families situation, however, you need to care for your son and family RIGHT NOW. Make things right on this forum issue and then turn your attention 100% to your son and wife. You do not need the headaches that were generated over this matter. Your comments can surely be forgiven, if made in anger. We have all said things that we regret, it's part of being human and imperfect. Just take care of this issue and move on.
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Well said. Welcome to BladeForums and glad your dealings so far have been positive in nature.
 
I believe private sales should be sorted out by the parties involved via PM and/or email. Whenever the "public" gets involved, it turns into chaos. Not siding with anyone, just sayin'. I also don't think the mods should have to intervene, it puts them into an unnecessary and awkward situation.
The feedback system is there for determining who to deal with. Regardless of any precautions, sometimes sh*t happens, such is life.
 
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bearguide said:
I believe private sales should be sorted out by the parties involved via PM and/or email. Whenever the "public" gets involved, it turns into a sh*tstorm. Not siding with anyone, just sayin'. I also don't think the mods should have to intervene, it puts them into an unnecarry and awkward situation.
The feedback system is there for determining who to deal with. Regardless of any precautions, sometimes sh*t happens, such is life.
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I disagree. The mods and sometimes other BF'ers intervention has gotten many a bad deal righted. Seeing their name pop up on Google has caused several folks to see the light.
 
bearguide said:
I believe private sales should be sorted out by the parties involved via PM and/or email. Whenever the "public" gets involved, it turns into a sh*tstorm. Not siding with anyone, just sayin'. I also don't think the mods should have to intervene, it puts them into an unnecessary and awkward situation.
The feedback system is there for determining who to deal with. Regardless of any precautions, sometimes sh*t happens, such is life.
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This thread and the sub-forum they are located in are a part of the feedback system.
 
Wow.

yep title of thread needs to be changed. Mod being blamed is wrong, imho. wronged party should be made whole. Personal tradegy or not doesn't mean one shouldn't try to right the wrongs.
 
Over Kill said:
This thread was truly hard for me to read especially on fathers day. It breaks my heart some of the things you people say. In my recent time here in this life I am losing hope for mankind. I remember as a child reading stories of good men, understanding men that put the weak and innocent before themselves but this world is changing. I am going to correct this situation and get drift draft refunded not for him or the mods or any of this community. I am going to do it because I am not a thief and not a bsing scammer like many of you are slandering. My wife laid in my arms and cried over some of the things said here. For those of you wishing my family well I do thank you. I dont feel like I need to explain myself any further here, not to a crowd like this.
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Over Kill said:
I will clear this up.

What I guess can be construed as a threat on my part was because of the ban and me not being able to sell the few remaining knives in my collection. I had another busse up for sale the day this went down and rycen locked my sale thread. I told him it would make a refund possible on that day if he did not and that i needed the sale to pay my sons bills. I was planing on sending the tweener to drift draft and not a refund to be honest.

The day I met rycen was the day i got baned and my thread got lock so I basically got stormed off this site in 2 hours.

With my sons condition and the sale of my knives being a major financial need right now I guess I said some things that I normally would not have said.
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So has a refund been issued yet?

A Little less talk and a little more action is all thats needed at this point.

Over Kill said:
I am going to correct this situation and get drift draft refunded not for him or the mods or any of this community. I am going to do it because I am not a thief and not a bsing scammer like many of you are slandering
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You are actually going to correct it for DD because thats how a deal works, but whatever makes you feel better mr excuse.


eta-1 star rating for this thread
etax2-appears someone else rated this one higher then 1 star, lame.
 
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IMO, what is going on in Over Kill's personal life is largely irrelevant here. Why? Because he has seen fit to expend the time and energy to defend his actions, including creating aliases here on BFC. So given that he clearly HAS the time and energy, why not use that time and energy to either refund DD his money or send him his knife??? Everyone can decide for themselves what the answer to that question might be, but I think this viewpoint correctly leaves out the emotional side of personal situations that only cloud the issue. Don't get me wrong--I am sensitive to life's many downturns. However, if you have time to defend your reputation, then you certainly have time to make right the very situation that forces you to defend your reputation.
 
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IMO, what is going on in Over Kill's personal life is largely irrelevant here. Why? Because he has seen fit to expend the time and energy to defend his actions, including creating aliases here on BFC. So given that he clearly HAS the time and energy, why not use that time and energy to either refund DD his money or send him his knife??? Everyone can decide for themselves what the answer to that question might be, but I think this viewpoint correctly leaves out the emotional side of personal situations that only cloud the issue. Don't get me wrong--I am sensitive to life's many downturns. However, if you have time to defend your reputation, then you certainly have time to make right the very situation that forces you to defend your reputation.
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Couldn't agree more.....
 
Don't get me wrong--I am sensitive to life's many downturns. However, if you have time to defend your reputation, then you certainly have time to make right the very situation that forces you to defend your reputation.
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Well said, sir.

So has a refund been issued yet?

A Little less talk and a little more action is all thats needed at this point.
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Refund DD. Don't wait a minute longer, do it now. No amount of money is worth risking harm to your reputation. Sometimes a man's good name is all he has, and I think you may be surprised at how quickly sentiment toward you will change when the refund is issued without excuse.
 
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He did offer to refund the money right after you sent it. You told him no. Then you changed your mind, and after going back and forth, he told you he could refund it within 24 hours... so you filed a paypal claim. That makes sense:rolleyes: Both of you have been members here for a while, and have tons of positive feedback. If he needed a day because the banks were closed, or even if he just wanted to get his finances in order, especially considering his rapport throughout your correspondence, I really don't see that as unreasonable. That said, I would have taken the refund on day one. Also, and probably more importantly, I don't think you're to blame if his son dies. You're responsible for his paypal being locked, not his son's illness. Bringing that up was in bad taste.
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1st. I don't know where you got your info but it sounds like it came from him. He offered to give a refund or hold the funds for 3 or 4 days so he could find the knife. I decided to trust him. Might not be your style, but it's mine. I waited 6 days after I requested refund, which was 5 days after he said he found the knife, (but never shipped it) to dispute with Paypal. On the day I filed a dispute with Pp I told him to ship the knife or issue the refund. He couldn't do either so yes I filed a dispute. So you would have asked for refund the first day but, I should have given him one more day after 16? :confused:
His finances pertaining too me would have been in order all along if he had held the funds in his account, like he said he would do.

2nd. I don't know where you got that I ''locked'' his paypal account. I filed a dispute over money that had been owed too me for over two weeks. I didn't lock anything. He is responsible for this. Not me!

3rd. Only 2 PMs from him (even though he was on the forum several times each day) in the 14 days between me paying him and filing a dispute is good rapport to you?

If nothing else, threads like this let me know who I would happily deal with, and who I never will.

21 Days and still no refund or knife.
 
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