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tundratrader-where are my knives?
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wolfmann601
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In NYC aren't they called rats?
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I'm just gonna throw out some things to consider. Keep in mind, I'm on neither side, I'm Neutral.
TT sent the knife as requested- $40 used camping tool, so K wouldn't have to pay fees. (Bad on both their parts.)
TT can't find the customs form for tracking (Bad on his part, but after six months, understandable while it may be un-responsible.)
K had ample time to file a complaint through Paypal if he never got the knife. (Bad on his part.)
Who's to say K got the knife, but is trying to scam TT?
Who's to say TT never sent the knife trying to scam K?
Who knows...
One thing we do know is that they both made mistakes and or are trying to screw each other...
Or some Dbag customs worker stole the knife...
Everyone should take note of this, and learn a valuable lesson...
I also think the trading/buying/selling forum rules should be updated as Spark sees fit.
TT sent the knife as requested- $40 used camping tool, so K wouldn't have to pay fees. (Bad on both their parts.)
TT can't find the customs form for tracking (Bad on his part, but after six months, understandable while it may be un-responsible.)
K had ample time to file a complaint through Paypal if he never got the knife. (Bad on his part.)
Who's to say K got the knife, but is trying to scam TT?
Who's to say TT never sent the knife trying to scam K?
Who knows...
One thing we do know is that they both made mistakes and or are trying to screw each other...
Or some Dbag customs worker stole the knife...
Everyone should take note of this, and learn a valuable lesson...
I also think the trading/buying/selling forum rules should be updated as Spark sees fit.
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29 of your 69 total posts have been in this thread. Do you really have better things to dwell on???
Esav Benyamin
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Discuss the topic, not the other members.
And on that note, this thread will reopen shortly when we have substantive news to report.
Gastonknife
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Any update on this issue?
By Using logic here is what I deduce from reading all of this.
TT Got funds , shipped knife and somehow lost or misplaced all paperwork relating to shipping it overseas.
Kromanm, sent funds has reciepts has been in constant contact looking for his knife..
As a seller TT has not been helpful in assisting Krom in sorting through this mess..
TT did falsify documents and seems to have initiated the $40 camping implement strategy..bad move.
As said before in any manner of resolution TT would lose, it is incumbant on him as the seller to retain proof of what was shipped ,how and with a receipt.
I would think such a reciept with weight listed, that could be reasonably compared to a boxed filled with packing materials and a knife would prove that the item was shipped.. He has not done this.
Krom using logic would also not be wasting time and his patince posting all this crap if he recieved the knife, he could easily sell it in russia for twice what he paid.
So using critical thinking skills I would have to say absent proof that it was shipped, TT has learned an expensive lesson, and he should make Krom whole by either refunding the price, or providing a receipt proof of shipment.
and to those that ask if lying on customs forms is bad ,, if they catch you it is.
TT Got funds , shipped knife and somehow lost or misplaced all paperwork relating to shipping it overseas.
Kromanm, sent funds has reciepts has been in constant contact looking for his knife..
As a seller TT has not been helpful in assisting Krom in sorting through this mess..
TT did falsify documents and seems to have initiated the $40 camping implement strategy..bad move.
As said before in any manner of resolution TT would lose, it is incumbant on him as the seller to retain proof of what was shipped ,how and with a receipt.
I would think such a reciept with weight listed, that could be reasonably compared to a boxed filled with packing materials and a knife would prove that the item was shipped.. He has not done this.
Krom using logic would also not be wasting time and his patince posting all this crap if he recieved the knife, he could easily sell it in russia for twice what he paid.
So using critical thinking skills I would have to say absent proof that it was shipped, TT has learned an expensive lesson, and he should make Krom whole by either refunding the price, or providing a receipt proof of shipment.
and to those that ask if lying on customs forms is bad ,, if they catch you it is.
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Unsubscribed, this is just lame.
If there's any good to come out of this, it's that many will learn a valuable lesson in best practices when shipping, and not just international. IMO, if international is done properly, as many have described here, these kinds of situations can be completely avoided (not to say packages won't occasionally get lost).
Anyway, on to constructive input. Had a similar situation: First-Class, uninsured package to Serbia not delivered after seven weeks. The differences: I hand-delivered to post office (invaluable advice given by others here in that regard). That ensured the customs form was scanned and printed on my receipt. Unless I'm a crafty thief, having a receipt containing date, weight, destination country and customs number is de facto evidence that I did indeed ship the package. Quick aside: for international shipments, I always take photo of package, with address label showing, and provide to buyer. Doesn't prove anything, but along with the aforementioned receipt, provides buyer with a little more peace of mind that being handled properly.
With the presumably lost shipment to Serbia, I'm feeling badly even though did everything right. I input customs number online as starting point. It's showing "no record." WTF!? I go to post office where I shipped, with customs form and receipt in hand. Clerk tells me after 45-days, the records are taken off-line ... archived. So, what can I do now I ask. She gives me toll-free number (1-800-222-1811) to investigate further. I call. At first, a recorded message instructs me to input customs number. Expectedly, tells me no record. Punch the keys to get a live person. Helpful lady. Says can have the record restored for online viewing (takes a couple of hours to implement). Three hours later, using customs number, I'm able to view tracking from Phoenix to Los Angeles (who knows why it went west, when destination was Europe). Interesting aside: according to the online record, it took two weeks for the package to travel Phoenix-to-Los Angeles. And strangely, the package was delivered in Serbia a few days after my online query using the customs number. Hmmm.
My point ... if the customs number is accurate (after correcting that last alpha-character to "S"), the record can be restored for viewing. Might not help to track down the knife, but it will answer that one fundamental question: Was the knife actually shipped to Russia?
Anyway, on to constructive input. Had a similar situation: First-Class, uninsured package to Serbia not delivered after seven weeks. The differences: I hand-delivered to post office (invaluable advice given by others here in that regard). That ensured the customs form was scanned and printed on my receipt. Unless I'm a crafty thief, having a receipt containing date, weight, destination country and customs number is de facto evidence that I did indeed ship the package. Quick aside: for international shipments, I always take photo of package, with address label showing, and provide to buyer. Doesn't prove anything, but along with the aforementioned receipt, provides buyer with a little more peace of mind that being handled properly.
With the presumably lost shipment to Serbia, I'm feeling badly even though did everything right. I input customs number online as starting point. It's showing "no record." WTF!? I go to post office where I shipped, with customs form and receipt in hand. Clerk tells me after 45-days, the records are taken off-line ... archived. So, what can I do now I ask. She gives me toll-free number (1-800-222-1811) to investigate further. I call. At first, a recorded message instructs me to input customs number. Expectedly, tells me no record. Punch the keys to get a live person. Helpful lady. Says can have the record restored for online viewing (takes a couple of hours to implement). Three hours later, using customs number, I'm able to view tracking from Phoenix to Los Angeles (who knows why it went west, when destination was Europe). Interesting aside: according to the online record, it took two weeks for the package to travel Phoenix-to-Los Angeles. And strangely, the package was delivered in Serbia a few days after my online query using the customs number. Hmmm.
My point ... if the customs number is accurate (after correcting that last alpha-character to "S"), the record can be restored for viewing. Might not help to track down the knife, but it will answer that one fundamental question: Was the knife actually shipped to Russia?
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Thank you very much for all of that info. I will be following up with all of that ASAP.
tundratrader
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This far post has been unable to track package. The previous post stated they were able to restore info. That is good news for me and potentially buyer. Though not insured it will prove shipment hopefully. Still unsure if I mistyped customs number to begin with but this is something positive for me in this recent flurry of negativity on me that has cost a few nights of sleep.
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I fell compelled to ask what else has been going on towards a resolution of this situation in the two weeks since you last addressed this thread. Maybe trying the approach xbanker talked about in your own case will help you but if not then is there something else on deck to get past the roadblock we seemed to be at before?
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A week later...how's that followup going?
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