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A bendy knife is better than a crispy knife.
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Why not Strider??
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A bendy knife is better than a crispy knife.
Josh, I would really like to know why S90V would be "impractical" when everybody who has ever used it agrees it is the best stainless steel available today for folding blade applications. It does not chip like S30V, holds an edge better and is about the same to sharpen (I think it is actually easier to sharpen).
As for CPM-3V, it is ironic that you dismiss it almost with disdain when Duane Dwyer made a few SNGs LEs in 3V that he sold around the same time as Blade and the sites selling those few knives were praising the superior characteristics of that steel. Needless to say, those SNGs cost a small fortune, around 800$, which is exactly double what I paid for my 3V Nkonka.
Finally, why did you have to put down anythingsharp about his English, I must admit I could not find anything wrong with confess?
As for CPM-3V, it is ironic that you dismiss it almost with disdain when Duane Dwyer made a few SNGs LEs in 3V that he sold around the same time as Blade and the sites selling those few knives were praising the superior characteristics of that steel. Needless to say, those SNGs cost a small fortune, around 800$, which is exactly double what I paid for my 3V Nkonka.
Finally, why did you have to put down anythingsharp about his English, I must admit I could not find anything wrong with confess?
Starting from the top, S90V is too hard to sharpen for the average person, it's very hard. It is not about the same, it's quite a bit harder, especially if you lost the initial edge due to neglect. I certainly wouldn't say it's the best choice for folding stainless steels. It has a specific application where it fits, and that isn't the average knife.
What is this "does not chip like S30V" ? I've used my SMF (and countless other S30V knives) and never once had a chipping problem.
3V I dismiss because it is a tough steel. It would be better suited to a larger chopper then a (relatively) small folder. Just because they made a custom in it doesn't mean I'm going to like it that much better. They also produce damascus versions, I don't like them either no matter what the price tag.
I buy what I like, regardless of what it costs. The SMF / SnG is a sound knife with a good design, exceptional ergos, and a high quality build. You can't dispute that.
I am wondering why S90V and 3V are being rejected when S90V has the same toughness and vastly more wear resistance, and 3V has the same wear resistance and vastly more toughness. If S30V is a premium steel, then these are quite a bit more so. Hard to sharpen? If you have a $300 plus folder, at least buy some diamond sharpening tools.
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I think S30V has a better balance between price of the steel, cost to work it, stainlessness, toughness, and wear resistance then S90V or 3V. I'm sure we could speculate why there aren't other steels, but no one questions CRK when they shell out $385 for a large sebbie. It's S30V and titanium. Nothing too special there.
Let me see if I got your thinking right: a 200$ (street) Millie is a more specialized knife than a 500$ Strider with a waiting list? Genius, indeed!
Waiting lists for what Strider? They are for sale everywhere, TNK for example.
Waiting lists for what Strider? They are for sale everywhere, TNK for example.
Do not avoid the main subject.
And go to Strider's website and see how they say they will put active military personnel at the top of their waiting list.
What main subject? You are blithering about a waiting list, and they say they put military personnel orders before all others, not that there is a waiting list for knives.
If the knives are available from a dealer, then there isn't much of a list.
Well, price of the steel and cost to machine - you said you didn't want cheap steel. Stainlessness - S90V is stainless, and 3V has 8% chromium, I haven't had rusting problems with 2 customs in the steel. Toughness, again S90V matches it and 3V blows it out of the water at 58 Rc (and matches A2's max at 60 Rc, still higher than S30V can hit) Wear resistance, again, S90V is far above and 3V is almost the same.
As for other steels, you can see that 10V, M4, and 9V (though with a lower max attainable hardness) all equal or exceed S30V on the two measures. Then you have to consider products from other mills. Uddeholm, Timken, Sandvik, Hitachi and such. I would put up flavors of Elmax, Vanadis, VG series, ZDPs, and more against S30V.
Lower wear resistance is actually preferred by a lot of users, particularly for what you mentioned - ease of sharpening. So, I would throw in the 'cheap' steels with good toughness, like 5160, 9260, L6, etc. for use in a beater blade. S30V is as tough as M2 (at a higher rockwell hardness than the stainless) I personally don't consider it tough, but probably tough enough for most uses.
People pay the money for Sebenzas because of the manufacturing quality, but I don't find the materials to be mind-blowing either. Striders are made of the same stuff.
Let me see if I got your thinking right: a 200$ (street) Millie is a more specialized knife than a 500$ Strider with a waiting list? Genius, indeed!
And neither are you. Suddenly.
Let me see if I got your thinking right: a 200$ (street) Millie is a more specialized knife than a 500$ Strider with a waiting list? Genius, indeed!
actually, you diverted the subject with the above post.
and fwiw, ive owned many knives in s30v, both fixed and folders. i have never had one chip.
i have only ever owned one knife in s90v, and ended up with a chip i could not explain. i had only owned my s90v military for a couple weeks and it had only cut paper/cardboard. never struck the ground or anything hard.
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Yeah, that struck me as being a bit hypocritical. I mean, they're ok with "hunting liars and cheaters," but, should anybody else decide to do it, they're labeled as "haters" who are failing to "turn the other cheek."
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3G