Would it be dishonest?

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Bobby3326 said:
I 100% agree with you on this one...the ignorance behind wanting to return a knife a year later after you've used it carried it ect.ect. is remarkably high.
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Unfortunately, it is that sense of entitlement people feel they have these days. The welfare state. There isn't much honor left in the world.
 
So scummy. :thumbdn::barf::thumbdn:

Next thread:
"Should I return the final bite of this Whopper to Burger King for a full refund? The advertisement says 'Your Way' but there was less mayonnaise than I prefer."
 
MastersOfDefense said:
I've owned my Benchmade Griptilian for nearly a year. I've held on to it for so long because I really wanted to like the knife. The knife just feels cheap to me. It took me a while to acquire some other blades and realize that for the price I paid (about $100 at REI) its just not worth it. I've EDC'ed the Griptilian off and on for a while and used it only a little bit (basic cutting chores). What i'm wondering is: is it ok to return the knife, or would it be dishonest? I not one of those folks who buy something just to use it for a while then return it, in fact I've wasted a lot of money on bad quality products just to "be honest". The worst wear on the knife is the clip wear (who's painted clip on their Benchmade isn't worn?). The return policy ends in four days, so would I look like a crook? I just feel like I got gypped. So tell me what you think. Thanks!
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In a word, Yes! it would be dishonest to return a knife you have had for a year. Basically, you get to keep the knife, carry and use it for a year, then return it for a refund? Now it is a used knife and the poor guy who sold it to you can't resell it as a new knife so he is out a lot of money. I find it hard to believe someone asked this question. Just sell it to someone.
 
I would just sell it on here personally but if you return it then whatever, not my place to judge since I myself am not perfect. I don't get why people post questions like this anyway. Just shut up, Man up and do what your gonna do because honestly no one has any right to judge and you shouldn't care what they think.
 
marcinek said:
Hey Rev...what would happen if someone pulled a similar stunt on the Exchange here?
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It wouldn't happen, for many reasons. Private sellers are not equipped to offer year long return policy. The rules here dictate people need to be sure they want the item, BEFORE claiming t purchase. On the flipside, sellers should only sell if they are sure they don't want the item.

MastersOfDefense said:
The ignorance level is high here.
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Indeed, evidenced by your thread. Thanks for self identifying.
 
jazub said:
Not to target you in any way, Bflying, but this recommendation seems akin to inviting a leech to live in your pool. Nah, I would recommend he stay away from Benchmade -and REI for that matter. He should pursue Ganzo and Enzo and Sanrenmu knives on auction sites. Manufacturers without customer support and retailers with whom I do not do business.

An upshot to threads like this is that they spotlight who to steer clear of in sales.
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No doubt. I guess in the beginning I read he thought it seemed a little cheap because of the handle, but actually liked the knife enough to keep it and use for a year. The thread has gotten more bizarre with justification and self deceit. Definitely a nightmare customer that no company likes to deal with.
 
MastersOfDefense said:
For those saying I should of returned the knife long ago, that was my first "expensive knife". I used to literally collect swap meet knives before I saved up and bought this knife. I did not know what quality was. My taste has only recently matured and realized what junk this knife is (in my opinion). I was hesitant to return the knife now because that was my special first "expensive knife". Mainly I want to return the knife because I feel I was cheated, I realize the knife probably wasn't new because of the problems I stated. I feel I should return to REI a used knife because I feel a bought a used knife in the first place. Besides, that IS what the retail outlet offers. I just can't live with the fact that I bought a "new" knife for $100, even if it was slightly "special" to me.
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So it's the company's fault you don't know what you're looking at? It would be one thing if it was a week or two, but 361 days, it's yours. If their is blade play get benchmade to fix it on a warranty. Otherwise sell it or be a man and suck it up. Nothing irritates me more than whiny little people and to be honest, that's exactly what you're being.
 
jazub said:
Next thread:
"Should I return the final bite of this Whopper to Burger King for a full refund? The advertisement says 'Your Way' but there was less mayonnaise than I prefer."
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That made me laugh out loud :thumbup: :D. I'll probably never think about a Whopper again without laughing.

And this is truly one of the most bizarre threads I've ever read on this forum :confused:
 
Jesus is this guy for real?

REI used to have one of the most lenient warranty and return policies of any retailer on the planet. And guess what, people like MastersOfDefense abused the system: using gear for extended periods of time and then returning it, buying old gear from the thrift stores and returning it for store credit, and on and on.

In the past few years, they were losing too much to the moochers and reduced their policy to a still incredibly generous limited warranty.

You used the damn knife, carried it, and a year later want to return it and take advantage of one of the few companies out there that still cares about their employees and customers? This is the same company that is closing its doors for Black Friday and still paying all of its employees for the day, so they can go outside, enjoy nature, and spend time with their families like Thanksgiving is supposed to be about.

I really hope that every person reading this thinks long and hard about ever dealing with MastersOfDefense. One day, he might pay for one of your knives, test drive it for six months, and on day 180, file a PayPal claim that it was not as described.

You can make all of the excuses you want, but this screams "scumbag move".
 
I struggle with the idea of returning a new knife that I just unpacked, turned over in my hand, and instantly decided "Don't like it, never gonna use it"...it amazes me that somebody would feel justified in returning one after a year of use.
 
OP, I can only respectfully offer my own thoughts of what I would feel is right in this situation. I just wouldn't feel right returning the knife after so long and some use.

I hear you that the knife had wee scratches and some play, but I would feel it's way past what I myself would call a reasonable time frame to be comfortable about using those issues as the basis for return, regardless of a written policy from whoever.

It's not big bucks. Chalk it up to experience, sell it second hand, or, as I would be inclined to do, gift it to someone who doesn't have a pocket knife and may well appreciate it. This would, to me, bring a positive note to the whole experience.

Just my thoughts. Be well.
 
I'll be honest, I'm confused as to how it would be dishonest in the least to use a companies explicitly written return policy as written. Yeah, it's crazy generous to offer a no questions asked return policy for one year, but that was a choice made by the company. Yup, it would be dishonest if the OP claimed manufacturing defects in order to return it, but if you aren't satisfied (OP clearly isn't) and that's literally the only condition to return it how is it in any way crooked, unethical or dishonest? Part of the reason to buy from REI is their return policy. There's a lot less reason to give them your patronage if you don't use the explicitly written policies they have when it applies.

Can anyone point me to where the policy states it's only for manufacturing defects or that if you've used the item in the year the return policy is void? If so, I'll completely agree with you, but I'm completely baffled by the idea that it's somehow wrong to use a company's as-written policy.
 
I will just come right out and say it, i think mastersofdefence is an a--hole... whata crooked s.o.b. . Faulty. Shady
No good .... -1.
To me he is like a Kardashian
 
RichardBay said:
Insipid, re-read thread. It is stated..
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I read it. It's definitely not explicit given the situation. OP isn't suggesting returning it due to any wear and tear, but due to dissatisfaction. Now, I do think it's on him to be absolutely honest and explain that there IS wear on the blade, no matter how minor, and let REI make the call. It's completely within their rights to refuse the return, but if he tells them the exact situation and asks if their return policy still applies I don't see how it's in any way dishonest, unethical or crooked.
 
The OP's mind was obviously made up prior to posting this thread or else he wouldn't have only sided with the few people who said to return it.

Returning a knife based on a manufacturer defect could have been done within the first few days when you were "sick" due to a scratch and some blade play. The store is a far drive? Good thing that they are a national chain and you could have mailed it to their return/exchange center. Instead you decided to carry and use it and are simply taking advantage of their return policy.

Did you read the last sentence?? Yes you may be allowed to return the knife BUT YOU ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THEM.

Honest?? Absolutely not.
 
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